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Old 9th Aug 2011, 20:41
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"Still, I'd like to see them give it a go."

So would I, as well as Rubber Bullets and tear gas
(in certain limited situations).
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Old 9th Aug 2011, 20:48
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Hey, look on the bright-side, there might be a few more Olympic tickets back on the re-sellers market now as people realise just what a sh*thole our country can quickly become and how hard it is to actually maintain law and order when faced with crowds of morons who do not realise the full effect of their lawless actions.

Don't blame the Police, they have their hands firmly tied through countless examples of 'damned if they do and damned if they don't'. Successive Governments have slowly eroded their ability to uphold the law through effective Policing and vastly reduced the numbers of officers on the streets.

Hopefully it will all fizzle out soon.......
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Old 9th Aug 2011, 20:49
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this is being centrally organized.
Leaflets like this (from the Turygraph blogsite) don't come out of the blue

Anyone recognise the similarity to the classic destabilisation process prior to a coup or military takeover? Financial collapse, unemployment growing, weak government, contrived street riots
Now which politician is going to appear as our "national saviour" and stage a takeover?

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Old 9th Aug 2011, 20:59
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Agree, Police have hands tied with all this Human Rights BS etc.

Water cannon with Semi Permanent Pink or Yellow dye - used selectively on confirmed rioters / looters.

Can you imagine these looters / rioters trying to go home afterwards with dyed Pink hair and skin ? (I assume most would take as many clothes off as possible once coloured).
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Old 9th Aug 2011, 21:04
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not dye - you need SmartWater SmartWater - Forensic Security and Consultancy

they don't realise its on them
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The situation we have is unseen for many years. I can recall, as I am sure many of you can, the serious disorder of 1981 and the effect that had on the UK as a whole.

What we have here is far worse and part of the reason is the advances in technology and the speed with which an event occurring in London can be communicated across the country. In theory, within minutes a similar act is being performed. It will be brought under control, but will take time and resources.

Theresa May and her Boss need to reconsider their plans for the Old Bill. Despite the fact we are being shafted - along with the military - we (and you), still put our lives on the line / necks on the block - and get on with the job.

The individuals involved are low lifes with nothing better to do. The individual shot and killed which sparked all of this was not just out for a drive to the shops. The latest revelation about who fired the shots has not helped, but that is a different matter altogether - the IPCC have however stated that rumours Duggan was killed 'execution style' as wholly incorrect or words similar.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

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.....or permanent UV dye in the water cannons, canno tbe seen unless under UV lighting I believe - at the very least shows you were present, but would require other evidence to be given against you to prove a crime was committed.

Society needs to realise we can't have it both ways - if we want a robust Police and Security Service in the UK, defending us against Crime and Terrorism, mistakes will be made. We just need to suck that up in the knowledge that those Services will then have the correct powers to protect us.

Mistakes should be learned from, but should not lead to the kind of bleeding hearts knee-jerk that seems to happen, and that invariably leads the Service involved to not take any gambles in the future, or leads to their powers being bled out by Governent Legislation.

Bad Politician Monkeys......
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Looks good. I can see it's usefulness.


I was thinking of the shame of the rioters having to talk through the suburbs covered with dye to get home. Some probably couldn't give a damn but I am sure some would.

And everybody would be looking at them. A powerful tool IMHO.

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Old 9th Aug 2011, 21:12
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Mobile Phone stuff

A2, forgive me for saying so old man, but your question re mobile phones and data is not one to be asked in this company. CB
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As some of us are trotting out what we would like to happen (as opposed to what will happen), lets not bother with PC nonsense like pink dye or smart water, and lets be like the KGB in the cold war days...........Lets spray them in radioactive matter!

We can either track the 'active' trail back to their houses, or........Just wait for them to appear in their local hospitals feeling a bit unwell

Of course, earlier on I was not feeling quite so vindictive, and just fancied seeing a few cops with miniguns
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Old 9th Aug 2011, 21:33
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Have you noticed that the majority of the rioters are Black? "

Well I'd be a bit surprised if any of them were green???
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Old 9th Aug 2011, 21:52
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Why ?

Fairly common knowledge (well was in my day in the UK) that Key words can be selected from phone calls etc and listened to later.

Or doesn't the UK do it anymore ?

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Water Cannon

It's a great concept.

Shame they couldn't get it to work properly.



The dye idea's been used, apparently.

Water cannon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 9th Aug 2011, 21:57
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Is anyone else thinking that a CAS stack over London would be a good idea???

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London, who needs it?

Overrun by the trash from the old colonies. Burn it down, export the vermin and start again...
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Old 9th Aug 2011, 22:02
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"Is anyone else thinking that a CAS stack over London would be a good idea??"

Only dribbling lunatic idiots who shouldn't be allowed out on their own or be allowed to play with anything sharp or heavy....


Jeez!
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Old 9th Aug 2011, 22:05
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TBM-Legend,


OR, a brilliant eclectic multicultural historic jewel that is the envy of most of the rest of the world.

Certain parts of it seem to be heaving with your compatriots all trying to make it in Law or serve behind bars in Covent Garden.
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Old 9th Aug 2011, 22:12
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that is the envy of most of the rest of the world.
No they don't. Most think it is a dump.

multicultural
Illegal immigrants sponging off of the rest of us. So now they are nicking televisions and white shell suits from JD Sports. Dats right innit blood like.
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Old 9th Aug 2011, 22:17
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Really annoyed,


Borrocks! How come it's one of the top tourist attractions on the face of the planet then and has a hugely and wonderfully diverse population who are some of the most gifted in their field anywhere, not just "illegal immigrants."

I work with non EU asylum seekers in London. It is very VERY hard for them and to say that they are 'sponging' is both inaccurate and insulting.
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non EU asylum seekers in London
Ah yes, those people who stowed away in lorries and didn't bother to claim asylum in the first European Country they managed to illegally enter.

It is very VERY hard for them
I don't care. They should be sent back to whence they came.
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