Redundancy Tranche 2 delayed.
Brig Rob Nitsch also admitted that some soldiers would be axed “against their wishes ... However Brig Nitsch did urge sacked troops to join the Territorial Army to continue soldiering at the weekends”
The Army undeniably needs slimming down to get rid of some of the logistical and administrative tail that is no longer required if you are going to reduce the teeth arms. But to suggest to individuals that having been dismissed they should then join the TA to allow the facade of a well trained and equipped force to be maintained really does demonstrate more front than Brighton as Del Boy might say.
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Just been informed that I am safe this time round. Mind you, I had to phone to find out because of some confusion with embargo times and local time zones. Nerves have settled, Mrs S is begining to calm down and life can go on. Best wishes to all others "in the Zone"
We had a few for whom it came as a complete shock, especially those with 2 years to run to their immediate pension point. Not good. However, at least it has been handled sympathetically and appropriately round here with news broken to individuals face to face by senior staffs.
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I have personally spoken to several people who have been made compulsory redundant at various points short of an IP point.... e.g chap on my CTW was less than 2 years away. Bast-ardo. I feel for them - they will lose out on hundreds of thousands over the remainder of their lifetime. The MOD have really shown how harsh and disloyal they have become to their staff.
In addition, the waiver on the DIN that introduces just 3 MONTHS notice for future redundancies runs out after 2013. So in future, they can kick you out with just 3 month's notice, but expect you to stay for 12-18 months depending on Service needs! Astounding how they believe that terms and conditions could be so skewed in favour of the MOD.
I wasn't eligible, but have PVR'd anyway. I think I have got out at the right time, and would never recommend it as a career choice for bright youngsters unless they want a few years of finishing school (a la Sandhurst) prior to entering the city/finding a real career job. Not bitter, just personal opinion on the way the generous terms and conditions I joined under have been eroded to the point that it is no longer an attractive option.
Good luck to all who got good/bad news. Take your bag of cash and find someone who appreciates your skills.
In addition, the waiver on the DIN that introduces just 3 MONTHS notice for future redundancies runs out after 2013. So in future, they can kick you out with just 3 month's notice, but expect you to stay for 12-18 months depending on Service needs! Astounding how they believe that terms and conditions could be so skewed in favour of the MOD.
I wasn't eligible, but have PVR'd anyway. I think I have got out at the right time, and would never recommend it as a career choice for bright youngsters unless they want a few years of finishing school (a la Sandhurst) prior to entering the city/finding a real career job. Not bitter, just personal opinion on the way the generous terms and conditions I joined under have been eroded to the point that it is no longer an attractive option.
Good luck to all who got good/bad news. Take your bag of cash and find someone who appreciates your skills.
Crikey, how much goodwill will there be in the retired/reserve component of HM Forces if something properly horrible kicks off in the Middle East/anywhere else.
"Reserve liability...hmmm let me check my files for the I-couldn't-give-a-fu(k letter I have been keeping for MOD since my redundancy!!"
I think the concept of employment for all professions in the UK is moving more and more towards short-term contracts, and away from a career for life. It's certainly what seems to be passing for career management in the military.
Anyone fancy a second career as a mercenary?
"Reserve liability...hmmm let me check my files for the I-couldn't-give-a-fu(k letter I have been keeping for MOD since my redundancy!!"
I think the concept of employment for all professions in the UK is moving more and more towards short-term contracts, and away from a career for life. It's certainly what seems to be passing for career management in the military.
Anyone fancy a second career as a mercenary?
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Some Tranche 1 non-applicant redundees have received letters in the last couple of days telling them that after a policy review they can apply to be exempted from their Reserve and Recall liability.
My reply telling them that I would indeed like them to shove that liability where the sun don't shine will be written before the end of this week!
Some Tranche 1 non-applicant redundees have received letters in the last couple of days telling them that after a policy review they can apply to be exempted from their Reserve and Recall liability.
My reply telling them that I would indeed like them to shove that liability where the sun don't shine will be written before the end of this week!
I heard that the head of one org at Cranwell, where the OC (Gp Capt) managed to wangle vol red', and his deputy (Wg Cdr) got comp red' - and it is not a small org!!!!
Nice to see that there has been some thought put into who stays and who goes!
Nice to see that there has been some thought put into who stays and who goes!
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I heard that the head of one org at Cranwell, where the OC (Gp Capt) managed to wangle vol red', and his deputy (Wg Cdr) got comp red' - and it is not a small org!!!!
Nice to see that there has been some thought put into who stays and who goes!
Nice to see that there has been some thought put into who stays and who goes!
Ursula Brennan Goes
So are we counting Ursula Brennan's departure back to Ministry of Justice as part of the redundancies? Or just about the only bit of good news in another wise pretty bad day for many in Defence?
Ursula Brennan had balls? Really? She always appeared ineffectual and evasive when I saw her answering questions. Brains might have been more useful than balls.
New year lay-offs: Army to fire 8,000 soldiers in 'fast-track' redundancies and sackings of over-45s | Mail Online
I appreciate that this is in the Daily Mail; however, have these already been taken into account, are they fabricated or are further cuts in Defence on the horizon?
I appreciate that this is in the Daily Mail; however, have these already been taken into account, are they fabricated or are further cuts in Defence on the horizon?
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The latest AMP Bulletin shows that PVR times are to increase from 6-12 months for some branches (like Eng Tech(M)s ). Seems we've overrshot the requirements to hit our targets yet again 
Also, we have failed to recruit the 700-odd Reservists we need and there are another 1000 FTRS posts in the offing!
So nothing surprises me anymore...
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Also, we have failed to recruit the 700-odd Reservists we need and there are another 1000 FTRS posts in the offing!
So nothing surprises me anymore...
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I love the bit about Army officers retiring at 45. That's going to make the race for the top pretty frantic.
If I didn't know for sure that all this had been so carefully thought throught, I could easily get a touche cynical.
If I didn't know for sure that all this had been so carefully thought throught, I could easily get a touche cynical.