I'll talk, you fight - PM
'Look, tell you what, you do the fighting and I'll do the talking'
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But as Sir Simon's words were written for MPs, he is just answering our political masters' questions as he is supposed to do.
Unless of course the leak came from High Wycombe, rather than Westminster or Canary Wharf........
Unless of course the leak came from High Wycombe, rather than Westminster or Canary Wharf........
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But as Sir Simon's words were written for MPs, he is just answering our political masters' questions as he is supposed to do.
No he doesn't have a point. For once, the politicians should shut up and actually listen to what their expert military advisors are telling them.
I would happily put money on the fact that he would be taking the very same points a lot more seriously if they came from his 'special advisors' or spin doctors rather than the heads of the military, such is the way of the Westminster Village.
Once again rather than getting shirty with the military, he should look closer to Parliament for the source of the leaks.
I would happily put money on the fact that he would be taking the very same points a lot more seriously if they came from his 'special advisors' or spin doctors rather than the heads of the military, such is the way of the Westminster Village.
Once again rather than getting shirty with the military, he should look closer to Parliament for the source of the leaks.
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Will Someone Brief the PM?
Dare I say that the PM may need a briefing? Air Command, COMMANDs the air forces, provide forces at readiness and allocates the resources needed to do the job. Alternatively, read that as; provides advice on the commitments which need to be dropped or throttled back to meet the resources. Unless I was asleep during the HAWC, PJHQ is the operational HQ and are the ones who should direct/do the fighting.
It strikes me that, for once, Simon said exactly what needed to be said and it was well within his remit. The Air Force can do the job - but not for ever, on a declining budget and decreasing assets, unless something gives.
Politicians take note!!!
It strikes me that, for once, Simon said exactly what needed to be said and it was well within his remit. The Air Force can do the job - but not for ever, on a declining budget and decreasing assets, unless something gives.
Politicians take note!!!
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PM Dave Cameron, try doing a little thinking before you start talking! I expected this sort of crap from Gordon Brown; but, this so-called prime minister is proving himself to be no better!
He really needs to get a grip over reality. We have too few military resources left and if he wants us to do the fighting, he needs to fully provide the means and the money to carry them through.
So call me Dave, I suggest unless you feel like doing the fighting yourself, and believe me I'm quite up for a ruck with you myself over some of your stupid decisions and comments lately; man up and listen to the military for a change!
He really needs to get a grip over reality. We have too few military resources left and if he wants us to do the fighting, he needs to fully provide the means and the money to carry them through.
So call me Dave, I suggest unless you feel like doing the fighting yourself, and believe me I'm quite up for a ruck with you myself over some of your stupid decisions and comments lately; man up and listen to the military for a change!
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I think you'll find that FRANK Skinner is a 'beast of the Black Country' - the name you wanted is Dennis. The only Labour MP I've any time for - not that I support his opinions but at least he hasn't been silenced by the whips.
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Although he has not intervened much in military matters Frank Field is an MP who has my respect. He says what he thinks, and is usually right, but doesn't care who he upsets.,
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I'm waiting with bated breath to see how Mickey Mouse Dave gets out of this one....if indeed he thinks he has to!!
It's true, as Tories we wait for three parliaments to get the Government we want and then this spineless bunch of non entities show up
No, I don't think he has a point.
It's true, as Tories we wait for three parliaments to get the Government we want and then this spineless bunch of non entities show up
No, I don't think he has a point.
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And if you don't like the answer, why ask the question in the first place. At this rate I might even consider, very slowly, joining a Trades Union.
Do they have them for retired navs?
PS Can't resist a crow...careful what you wish for was my message two years ago...and now you know why.
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It stopped being our country decades ago when we opened the migrant floodgates, we natives now have less rights and are second class to those that invaded.
As for the armed chiefs, its about time they stood shoulder to shoulder and told these public school boys prats publicly to ****off......but we alraedy know they dont have the balls todo that......career before country......they make me sick.
I really don't like what's happening to my country.
As for the armed chiefs, its about time they stood shoulder to shoulder and told these public school boys prats publicly to ****off......but we alraedy know they dont have the balls todo that......career before country......they make me sick.
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Cameron got my vote on the grounds that Labour hadn't been fit to Govern for some years, and that he could surely do no worse and should be given the opportunity to improve matters. In spite of non-supportive counselling from friends and family, I took the view that he deserved two or three years in which to demonstrate my 'faith' in him. Subsequently, the ludicrous number of banana skins and about-turns have nurtured a probability to me of a man who is out of his depth, and until today my self-doubts over his ability to perform as a competent Prime Minister have festered.
This latest remark in response to his military leaders' well-held professional opinions in time of conflicts more than reinforces my concern. I now have now absolutely no respect for the person and his Government. He is a disgrace to his office, and should go soon before he leads us into a deeper abyss - regardless of who follows him, provided that Balls is not involved. Churchill would be aghast.
This latest remark in response to his military leaders' well-held professional opinions in time of conflicts more than reinforces my concern. I now have now absolutely no respect for the person and his Government. He is a disgrace to his office, and should go soon before he leads us into a deeper abyss - regardless of who follows him, provided that Balls is not involved. Churchill would be aghast.
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I listened to that one wee remark with disbelief. I don't think the PM has twigged how pivotal those few words will be in driving the final nail into countless career coffins.
You do the talking Dave, many more will be doing the walking. Nice one.
You do the talking Dave, many more will be doing the walking. Nice one.
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So much for our military covenant! But then it's now written in black and white...so he can't possibly be in breach?!? Can he?
I believe Charles Moore has hit the nail on the head with the following article...
Lawyers should never come between a nation and its troops - Telegraph
I believe Charles Moore has hit the nail on the head with the following article...
Lawyers should never come between a nation and its troops - Telegraph