Brize move a farce..
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Stepping well out of my knowledge zone, can you remove the blades from a turbo prop and run the engine, and would this reduce the noise?
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1AMW will not be moving to Brize in November but delayed until at least April 12 because there is no accommodation available !!!!!
No shocks, perhaps the reality that Brize simply is not big enough is at last becoming apparent now that a significant number of personnel have at last been posted from Lyneham.
No shocks, perhaps the reality that Brize simply is not big enough is at last becoming apparent now that a significant number of personnel have at last been posted from Lyneham.
After all the old UKMAMS used to be based at Abingdon and drove across to Lyneham or Brize.
We've already lost op and trg sorties due to local knee-jerk responses to gurning locals. Whilst I can sympathise to a certain extent the stn does seem to be over sensitive to local gurns and moans.
The station clearly underestimated the noise problem when this bolleaux decision was made in the first place - and it is entirely unreasonable to expect a generally supportive local population to tolerate additional noise resulting from MoD's impecunity.
Incidentally, car parking was one of the first topics I raised when this shotgun wedding was first considered. But 'they' knew better, of course, - "It won't be a problem"....
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When i was at Bzn on the "Whispering Giant" we never got complaints The noisy ones were the "10s"...........Anyway, who remembers the pleasure of listening to an extended ground run of an Argosy
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Whats the problem with parking!!? seems to me it is no worse than it was, i have managed to find somewhere to park within reasonable distance of the sqn or the sim building everytime have come in
I think the hardest thing is going to be getting in to the med centre or dental centre as its always been pretty bad
I think the hardest thing is going to be getting in to the med centre or dental centre as its always been pretty bad
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"Stepping well out of my knowledge zone, can you remove the blades from a turbo prop and run the engine, and would this reduce the noise? "
Yes, of course you could remove the blades...... But, after putting them back on, and before flight, you would need to carry out another ground run....... etc
Yes, of course you could remove the blades...... But, after putting them back on, and before flight, you would need to carry out another ground run....... etc
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The station clearly underestimated the noise problem when this bolleaux decision was made in the first place - and it is entirely unreasonable to expect a generally supportive local population to tolerate additional noise resulting from MoD's impecunity.
Incidentally, car parking was one of the first topics I raised when this shotgun wedding was first considered. But 'they' knew better, of course, - "It won't be a problem"....
Incidentally, car parking was one of the first topics I raised when this shotgun wedding was first considered. But 'they' knew better, of course, - "It won't be a problem"....
The move itself it seems was done to quick, everything should have been in place and ready to go before it started. It's not as though it was unexpected ffs, when was it announced? 2001/2?
As for the Quarters, the ones in Brize should have been knocked down 2 days after they were built not just before the move started! I can honestly say the one I had for 2 years was the worst MQ I'd ever had in 22 years service, even the old beaten up pile of bricks we had in Tidworth was better and thats saying something coming from a squaddy!
Still we are where we are now and somehow I don't think they will be going back to Lyneham. Mind you, would people be really surprised if they did? (now theres a rumor to start... remember, you heard it here first )
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Originally Posted by Farfrompuken
Always a Sapper...
There are, apparently, 2 runways at lyneham, plenty of spare accommodation and some sim buildings that might be of use.....
Potential bolt-hole for the C130 when the locals revolt!
Mind you, they've had years of warning that Brize was going to get busy....
There are, apparently, 2 runways at lyneham, plenty of spare accommodation and some sim buildings that might be of use.....
Potential bolt-hole for the C130 when the locals revolt!
Mind you, they've had years of warning that Brize was going to get busy....
Aye, apparently so. The occasional one does seem to get lost now and then since the move and wander over for a quick look-see.
And I've not been asked to have the fuse's out for the runway lights yet either.
Being pertantic there's actually 3 runways although one's of more use as a car park these days but even so it is a LOT better than Brizes old spare runway!
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Being pertantic
As for the 'third' runway at Lyneham, Rwy 31 would work with a very short taxy from the apron but the overrun on Rwy 13 could get quite obstructed.
Lots of Grumpy Monkeys in the Gateway last night when a tanker blacked the runway for quite some time - good job we have another AT friendly airfield...ah, well done Pike, I wondered when someone would spot that...
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Isn't it time someone suggested we get on our bikes (green, save the planet good for fitness etc)
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I'll speak if I may as a member of a non REMF and non shiny fleet squadron at BZN and also a resident of Brize Village.
Firstly, some of the comments on here (and Im not naming names) are incredibly immature and have had no real thought put into them except for selfish, childish reasons.
It's quite simple, one of the two bases had to go and Lyneham's runway just isn't big enough to support the heavy aircraft, it doesn't matter how many runways are there, they aren't long enough!
Secondly, noise pollution; the last survey carried out at Brize had 80% of aircraft movements done between 07:00 and 23:00, this figure has now reversed with most aircraft movements taking place in the once quiet hours.
It is currently 01:30, there is a herc running it's engines and has been for almost an hour. Last week a VC-10 carried out max power runs at 23:45 for an hour, is this fair on the local population?
The times and type of noise pollution has changed dramatically in the past 6 months and I can see why local residents are losing sleep.
Do they have reason to complain... Absolutely they do, it's going against human rights!
Firstly, some of the comments on here (and Im not naming names) are incredibly immature and have had no real thought put into them except for selfish, childish reasons.
It's quite simple, one of the two bases had to go and Lyneham's runway just isn't big enough to support the heavy aircraft, it doesn't matter how many runways are there, they aren't long enough!
Secondly, noise pollution; the last survey carried out at Brize had 80% of aircraft movements done between 07:00 and 23:00, this figure has now reversed with most aircraft movements taking place in the once quiet hours.
It is currently 01:30, there is a herc running it's engines and has been for almost an hour. Last week a VC-10 carried out max power runs at 23:45 for an hour, is this fair on the local population?
The times and type of noise pollution has changed dramatically in the past 6 months and I can see why local residents are losing sleep.
Do they have reason to complain... Absolutely they do, it's going against human rights!
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it's going against human rights!
Speaking as a resident of Brize village for the past 20 years I'm reminded of the old saying ' If you don't like the smell of pigs then don't buy a house next to a pig farm'!