F-117 secrecy.
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Well, I didn't see that coming...
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The Dark Knights
Supposdedly, one of the recently seen F-117A has 'Dark Knights' on its fin stripe thus leading to the conclusion a unit by this name is operating it. Safe to say the previous 37th/49th FW never had a squadron nicknamed the 'Dark Knights'.
https://airforcesmonthly.keypublishi...Pppk-e9N_Ker4k
https://airforcesmonthly.keypublishi...Pppk-e9N_Ker4k
Supposdedly, one of the recently seen F-117A has 'Dark Knights' on its fin stripe thus leading to the conclusion a unit by this name is operating it. Safe to say the previous 37th/49th FW never had a squadron nicknamed the 'Dark Knights'.
https://airforcesmonthly.keypublishi...Pppk-e9N_Ker4k
https://airforcesmonthly.keypublishi...Pppk-e9N_Ker4k
I would think that there are a couple of aircraft supporting testing activities and I guess they've got to be operated by someone. Or, it's to mess with the guys out camping in the desert waiting for them to fly over.
Californian dreamin’
Appears the Wobbly Goblin plus Edwards based NKc-135 have been out to play off the coast.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...lifornia-coast
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In the linked article it states that it is legally mandated that the F-117 must be destroyed by the end of this decade!
Why under what legislation??
could someone please explain.
Thanks
David
Why under what legislation??
could someone please explain.
Thanks
David
From: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...last-two-years
I have no idea how accurate that is. If you google for the Act mentioned it doesn't seem to say 4 a year anywhere https://www.congress.gov/114/crpt/hr...114hrpt840.pdf
Until 2016, there was a legal requirement to keep the F-117s in so-called "Type 1000" storage, meaning that they would be maintained in a state where they could be returned to active service relatively quickly, if necessary. The annual defense policy bill, or National Defense Authorization Act, for the 2017 Fiscal Year nullified this and replaced it with the four-per-year disposal plan. The Air Force Life Cycle Management Center at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio subsequently developed what it calls a "migration plan" for how to get rid of the F-117s.
Salute!
Not surprising, or maybe it is, but somebody realized we had a 2nd generation low observable platform to use for training and development of tactics when future adversaries have LO platforms, manned and UAV's.
Gotta talk with some of my friends that flew the things, but previous rejoins seem to indicate that the 117 was more optimized for surface-to-air systems than A2A. And that makes sense, as our primary threat at the time was heavily dependent upon good GCI to get interceptors into a firing solution.
Some of us have questioned using F-35's in Red Flag, as "exposure" can be exploited by potential adversaries. Better to keep the actual capabilities as "hole cards", huh?
Gums sends...
Not surprising, or maybe it is, but somebody realized we had a 2nd generation low observable platform to use for training and development of tactics when future adversaries have LO platforms, manned and UAV's.
Gotta talk with some of my friends that flew the things, but previous rejoins seem to indicate that the 117 was more optimized for surface-to-air systems than A2A. And that makes sense, as our primary threat at the time was heavily dependent upon good GCI to get interceptors into a firing solution.
Some of us have questioned using F-35's in Red Flag, as "exposure" can be exploited by potential adversaries. Better to keep the actual capabilities as "hole cards", huh?
Gums sends...
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The wobblies plus tanker out and about in broad daylight https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...lifornia-coast
This thread is a blast from the past. The amount of DMs I got questioning me over the (what I thought was a) blatant wind up re marshalling with blindfolds was unreal. It even made it into ARRSE.
Salute!
As one of my foreign students in a old plane said after a long briefing by an IP trying too hard to make points for his annual checkride, walking out to the planes....
"What he say?"
Other student calmly replies, "we go fly now."
Anybody know what AR1 was saying?
Gums asks...
As one of my foreign students in a old plane said after a long briefing by an IP trying too hard to make points for his annual checkride, walking out to the planes....
"What he say?"
Other student calmly replies, "we go fly now."
Anybody know what AR1 was saying?
Gums asks...