RAF Welton Dispersal
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looking at the photo (its actually better in Google Earth)
The Airfields Of Berkshire Welford
anyone any idea what those pads are on the extreme east of the base?
they look like some sort of dispersal pad rather than a munitions store - they also look newer than the rest of the place...................
The Airfields Of Berkshire Welford
anyone any idea what those pads are on the extreme east of the base?
they look like some sort of dispersal pad rather than a munitions store - they also look newer than the rest of the place...................
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RAF Welford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Look under RAF Use
Probably are for dispersed aircraft..
Look under RAF Use
Probably are for dispersed aircraft..
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
It appears to be an armament depot. The revetter bunker complex on the left has stores visible. The revetments down the runway are empty. A further revetment comlex to the east is under construction.
The date of imagery is given as 2004 which suggests it is an active site. There is a photo of the main gate that is accessible from Google Earth.
In 1945 it was a USAAF 435th Troop Transport Group. It remained in USAF hands thereafter.
The date of imagery is given as 2004 which suggests it is an active site. There is a photo of the main gate that is accessible from Google Earth.
In 1945 it was a USAAF 435th Troop Transport Group. It remained in USAF hands thereafter.
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Access to the M4
As Welton was one of if not the largest USAF munition stores in Europe with its own entry to the M4 and looking where the roads go to these dispersal sites, could I suggest, I do not know, that these were loading bays for accepting or distributing munitions?
Meant to say Welford....
Meant to say Welford....
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Do I get a prize for spotting the deliberate mistake ?
RAF Welton ( aka Dunholme Lodge ) is/was approx 2 miles east of Scampton in Lincolnshire not Berkshire.
RAF Welton ( aka Dunholme Lodge ) is/was approx 2 miles east of Scampton in Lincolnshire not Berkshire.
I think you need to consider what use the site was to be put to in the mid 1980s by US forces...
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yes Welford has its own eastbound M4 exit marked "Works Unit" but in red which is a bit of a giveaway - plus the CND mob regularly paint some abuse on the sign (which is then repainted)
From the M4 westbound you can see what looks like standard USAF type security tower but not the site - which is a monster arms dump
Whenurhappy 's suggestion is interesting - its only a short drive from Greenham Common and is a "Secure site" and those pads on the eastern side are are quite long with sweeping entry ways - just the thing for a 60 ton GLCM launcher
hmmm...................
From the M4 westbound you can see what looks like standard USAF type security tower but not the site - which is a monster arms dump
Whenurhappy 's suggestion is interesting - its only a short drive from Greenham Common and is a "Secure site" and those pads on the eastern side are are quite long with sweeping entry ways - just the thing for a 60 ton GLCM launcher
hmmm...................
HH,
I think that you might be right, but then I couldn't possibly comment...except to say that GLCM were not intended to be fired from either Greenham Common or Molesworth, but from pre-surveyed, prepared TEL sites.
I think that you might be right, but then I couldn't possibly comment...except to say that GLCM were not intended to be fired from either Greenham Common or Molesworth, but from pre-surveyed, prepared TEL sites.
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For those who take an interest in such things, travel west on the M4 / A48 to the land of the viet taff - and the former RAF Caerwent. The CND types were never convinced that it did not hold WMD. ( It did have its own iron age hill fort and roman villa )
The suspense is too much!
The 4 open semi-re vetted hardstandings at the extreme east of the site were built as 'remote' launch positions for GLCM (Pershing II). . The route from their storage bunkers was carefully siurveyed for turning radii, asphalt compressive strength , bridge loadings etc and upgraded as appropriate. This work was done between c1983-86 by PSA on behalf of USVF.
Launch azimuth etc can be garnered from the positioning of the revettment, designed to deflect the blast from the cruise missile launch. There were other sites as well.
The storage bunkers at Molesworth are still in remarkable condition and occasionally made available for public inspection.
The 4 open semi-re vetted hardstandings at the extreme east of the site were built as 'remote' launch positions for GLCM (Pershing II). . The route from their storage bunkers was carefully siurveyed for turning radii, asphalt compressive strength , bridge loadings etc and upgraded as appropriate. This work was done between c1983-86 by PSA on behalf of USVF.
Launch azimuth etc can be garnered from the positioning of the revettment, designed to deflect the blast from the cruise missile launch. There were other sites as well.
The storage bunkers at Molesworth are still in remarkable condition and occasionally made available for public inspection.
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Am I being too simplistic by suggesting they are the hard standings at the end of the WWII runway which is now mainly built over by the munitions store?
GLCM (Pershing II)
I know there were several launch sites on SPTA. My mate stumbled on one when he was on weekend manoevres with the TA. He and his chums were told in no uncertain terms to p*ss off by the paras who were on stag.
The storage bunkers at Molesworth are still in remarkable condition
Excuse slight drift, but direction this thread is going reminded me of an interesting day in early '84. I had gone as staff gopher with three recently graduated IOT studes on an exchange visit to the Royal Norwegian Air Force Academy. After a week of their hospitality my head hurt, and even more so after the "dinner/dansant" - formal dinner, where I had to make the toast to the then King, presented Commandant with a bottle of Port (to demonstrate what his studes had been doing to my head all week), all night dance, followed by breakfast, still in mess kit, in downtown Trondheim. There, in my slightly befuddled state I was introduced to a former student of the Academy, who just happened to be their Secretary of State for Defence.
Back to Academy to change for travel, bus to airport, climb onto plane going to Oslo - where the "former student" sees me, changes seats to sit next to me and explains that he is on his way to Oslo for the Parliamentary debate on whether or not GLCM s are to be allowed on Norwegian soil. "What do you think?" he asks, "Should we allow them?" Fortunately the flight was only half an hour, and I don't think I caused a diplomatic incident. But it was kind of scary. I think in the end the Norwegians said "No". Don't think I influenced the decision, but strange end to a very enjoyable week.
Back to Academy to change for travel, bus to airport, climb onto plane going to Oslo - where the "former student" sees me, changes seats to sit next to me and explains that he is on his way to Oslo for the Parliamentary debate on whether or not GLCM s are to be allowed on Norwegian soil. "What do you think?" he asks, "Should we allow them?" Fortunately the flight was only half an hour, and I don't think I caused a diplomatic incident. But it was kind of scary. I think in the end the Norwegians said "No". Don't think I influenced the decision, but strange end to a very enjoyable week.