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Omega Air B707 crash Pt. Magu California (merged)

Old 19th May 2011, 02:36
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Omega Air B707 crash Pt. Magu California (merged)

Pt. Mugu - An airbase spokesman says a Boeing 707 tanker has crashed on takeoff at Point Mugu Naval Air Station in Ventura County. Crew survive with minor injuries.

Pt. Mugu Crash: Boeing 707 Crashes and Explodes in Flames at Point Mugu - ktla.com

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Looks like a KC135 to me, sorta like a 707 I guess!
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It was these guys. Not a KC-135.

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EW73, Omega Air Refueling Services operates 2 private 707s that are contracted to provide refueling to US military branches. While they look like KC-135s, the tank system is different and these 707s started life as airliners (one as a Pan-Am plane, and the other as a Royal Saudi Air Force transport).
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They have also been seen in Australia doing the same for the RAAF
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707 = kc137 larger than the kc135 =720
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Not a KC-137 (and a KC-135 is not a 720 it's a 717), it was a civilian aircraft owned and operated by Omega Air (civilian) on air refueling contracts for various governments, I believe this is one of (if not the) last 707 in commercial service (aside from the Saha Air birds in Iran). Would park next to us frequently in HNL. If memory serves it was a 707-300. I believe Omega has some L1011s doing the same as well.
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Omega 707 accident at Point Mugu

Omega tanker crashes at Point Mugu | Australian Aviation Magazine

Good to hear the crew are all okay.
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Indeed, D-IFF_ident - that's the most important thing.

N707MQ was one of the last 'classic' 707s, I gather.

More here: Military plane crashes in Southern California - CNN.com
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2 707-300's (well one now) and 1 DC-10-40. The DC10 was a regular static aircraft at RIAT Fairford.
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.. it is believed the 707 was carrying 150,000 of jet fuel but all 3 crew members escaped with only minor injuries.
Good outcome.

I wonder if having a fitness test 'tick' would have made any difference with this one though..?
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I would imagine that adrenaline would have had rather greater effect on the ability to leg it sharpish than the artificial requirements of some gel-haired gym queen, Al. In any case, a Class 1 medical is considered entirely adequate for similar aircraft in civilian operation.

An updated news item here: Military plane crashes, burns in Point Mugu | abc7.com
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"Several firefighting agencies were summoned to extinguish the flames from the ground and air. A helicopter dumped several loads of water on the tanker. Firefighters on the ground appeared to be letting the fire burn but were dousing the area around the plane."

Water on fuel? That really sounds like a good idea. The concept of letting it burn is probably a good one as it will minimize the impact of fuel contamination and since the crew were out there was no reason why not.
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Not the first time that an Omega/McEvaddy 707 has failed to get airborne, luckily no fatalities on this occasion.

ASN Aircraft accident Boeing 707-321B N320MJ Marana-Pinal Air Park, AZ (MZJ)
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Watching the video...."Dropping water near the burning aircraft" would be more accurate.
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RAAF Charter of B707 Tanker

Interesting that the RAAF is chartering B707 tankers. Pity they had not kept one or two of their own fleet until the new aircraft became operational.
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(and a KC-135 is not a 720 it's a 717),
In fact, the KC-135 had a narrower fuselage than the 707/720 series.
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From the news coverage it looked like a loss of control during a rejected take-off attempt. The tire tracks veer off the side of the runway and there is an engine that has sheared off prior to the time the aircraft came to rest. The fire burned for hours. Those guys were lucky to get out with minor injuries.
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I agaree with piper driver's analsysis.

Dear moderator, this should be in NEWs forum. can't imagine a big airliner (granted converted to a private company tanker) running off the side of the runway in an apparent rejected takeoff and then burning not being NEWS that a professional pilot wouldn't want to see.
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BBC News - US military plane crashes during take off

A few different viewes of the scene
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