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Prince Harry Qualifies as an Apache Pilot

Old 10th Mar 2011, 08:57
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Prince Harry Qualifies as an Apache Pilot

Congratulations to young Harry.
This is a very demanding course, and I am pleased that he passed.
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Seconded!

You can bet your bottom dollar though that it still wont stop the leftie trashers who infest the Guardian depicting him and his bro as overprivileged inbred leeches who have never done an honest days work in their lives.
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Well done him. He and his brother should be commended for striving to have normal(ish) careers. Harry especially seems determined not to live in the shadow of his brother.
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Is this really true?

From the Telegraph:

"Only the most talented trainees are offered the chance to fly Apaches, which are each worth £35 million: just 2 per cent of those who embark on the Army Air Corps' helicopter pilots' training course end up flying the strike aircraft"
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Is this true? Certainly credible. The attrition rate on the various stages of the basic Army Flying Course will take its toll and then there are few Apaches but many Lynxes etc. So 2% of those mud soldiers who report to MW on day one is probably not far off.
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The stats may be muddied a little depending on whether grading is considered to be part of the process or not.

Even so, my hat is doffed. Getting past Lynx convex was challenging enough.
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Yes, if you take the stats from initial application, via the OASC and medical process right through the various DHFS stages to wings, it is pretty plausible.
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The Telegraph's article implied that one in fifty of those who get to MW complete the Apache course:

"those who embark on the Army Air Corps' helicopter pilots' training course"

not those who apply for it.

Still, well done H - hope he has fun.
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...that wasn't him flying the Apache over Canterbury yesterday, or was it?

Unusual sight for this area...
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Well done. Sure it was really well deserved..he was always v talented during EFT *cough*

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Very well done, HW. A really tough course demanding clear senses - which proves that his nights out were well planned!
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I met Harry and Diana, back in 91/92. I showed him the (then, new) sniper rifle and he said he wanted to be a soldier. His mum looked at me from under that fringe (my knees lost a bit of vertical control at that point) and whispered with a smile.. '.. not a chance'.

Well done, both of 'em. I wonder who gets the bragging rights though..
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Well done Harry. They can't take that away from you. Cue for song.
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Well, I'm not a leftie or a Guardian reader, & I do hold the Queen's Commission but I still think this is a waste of time & money unless he is going to do the normal front line tours (which I doubt). I have every admiration for the ability to pass a very demanding course, which I could not, but it it is still pointless in my view.
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I hope he proves you wrong.
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I still think this is a waste of time & money unless he is going to do the normal front line tours (which I doubt).
So where do Apache instructors come from? Are they a waste of time and money?
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So where do Apache instructors come from? Are they a waste of time and money?
No Apache instructors have ever done a frontline tour, sounds like a bloody cushy lifestyle for sure
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Not quite 100% accurate...


Grandad Bill the Falklands ace flies back to war | Mail Online
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bloody cushy lifestyle

Seldomfitforpurpose wrote:
No Apache instructors have ever done a frontline tour, sounds like a bloody cushy lifestyle for sure
Timex points us to a Daily Mail story from September 2009 that would suggest otherwise.



A grandfather who fought in the Falklands War nearly 30 years ago is flying an Apache attack helicopter on frontline operations against the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Royal Navy reservist Lieutenant Commander Bill O’Brien, 54, has flown more than 30 missions in southern Afghanistan

He was awarded the Distinguished Flying Medal for his ‘exceptional courage and considerable flying skill in the face of the enemy’ as a sergeant in the Royal Marines piloting a Gazelle during the 1982 Falklands conflict. The father of three is a helicopter instructor at the Army Air Corps centre at Middle Wallop, Hampshire.


But he is back on the front line after volunteering for combat and is on a four-month tour of duty with 663 Squadron in Helmand province.





Shurly shum mishtake Mish Moneypenny.


More here on a remarkable soldier.
Royal Marine who won only Distinguished Flying Medal ever awarded to sell it after 38-year career | Mail Online

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Remember, Andrew was still second in line for succession when he took part in the Falklands war (William wasn't born then) and carried out a full service career. Harry is in exactly the same position, apart from being even further down the chain. He will see front line service again, if the press can be trusted to keep their mouths shut.
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