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Old 30th Mar 2011, 17:34
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It appears that lack of air sorties has allowed the Colonel's very own troops to send the rebels packing from Ras Lanuf. Sirte is apparently no longer under threat.

The Hope/Crosby "Road to Tripoli" film has been, as of this writing, delayed.
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 18:07
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>An amazing series of images from Libya.<

Some rather intriguing antennas visible in this sequence of shots as well; Racal wideband VHF/UHF, Andrew microwave link, low-band Yagis, HF NVIS and suchlike. Wonder what the target is/was?
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 18:39
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I may have a slightly different definition of the word "intriguing", ACW599
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Some rather intriguing antennas visible in this sequence of shots as well; Racal wideband VHF/UHF, Andrew microwave link, low-band Yagis, HF NVIS and suchlike
Thats definitely a TV aerial at the front. Freeview, by the looks of it.
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>Thats definitely a TV aerial at the front. Freeview, by the looks of it.<

I dare say the digital switchover in Libya has been postponed for a while
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 20:46
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The Rebels making good use of Russian air to ground rockets pods (UB-16)

The A-Team springs to mind!

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Old 30th Mar 2011, 21:54
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I look forward to seeing the test firing in the next installment. I hope they remember to close the sun-roof before letting rip...

I'd have thought they would have been better pimping their ride by welding a couple of stub wings on the doors of the pick-up for mounting the pods.
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 22:05
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"I'd have thought they would have been better pimping their ride by welding a couple of stub wings on the doors of the pick-up for mounting the pods"

That would make it one directional which means driving at the enemy (and therefore longer to get out of range) as opposed to a 360 degree system they have which means attacking from any direction.

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Old 30th Mar 2011, 22:07
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Yes but just think how cool it would look.
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"Yes but just think how cool it would look."


Yes, agree, but cool doesn't equate to winning or achieving the mission.

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Old 30th Mar 2011, 22:52
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Libya foreign minister 'defects'

BBC News - Libya: Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa 'defects to UK'

Not another Rudolph Hess situation going on is there?
I guess we are a bit more propaganda savvy these days and will milk this for everything we can.
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Yes, agree, but cool doesn't equate to winning or achieving the mission.
Bollocks !!!
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I've just been watching some video reports on the BBC news website showing an RAF man being a crew member of a twin seat French jet, a mirage I think. It implied that the jet had been on sortie over Libya and had fired weapons. Is this routine? Does the French airforce need English speakers to be able to communicate with people on the ground or is this some sort of arrangement that existed prior to the Libyan crisis?

Maybe the RAF in theatre with their 14 planes have too many crew while the French airforce with their 100 or so planes have too few.
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 02:39
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Caspian237,

Exchange tours in combat are nothing new. Back in 1999 the then Squadron Leader Alistair Monkman was flying F-117s in combat over Yugoslavia.

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Belgian F-16s in action over Libya. Destruction of Fitter and Hardened Aircraft Shelter.

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Old 31st Mar 2011, 13:10
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Thanks for the update TEEEJ. That is interesting. So is this a NATO innovation designed to bring about better cooperation and understanding between the militaries of partner nations? I guess this instance could be a fruit of the recent defence talks between the French and British Governments.
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 14:16
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well viewing developments over the last two days a slight change in the approach to the air missions seem to stand out since NATO took command. my contacts indicate a reduction in the air attacks on government assets on the advance line, well now the retiring line. A general reduction of support helping the advance of the irregulars in opposition.
My comments a few days ago re the the commitment of NATO and the difficulty of effective actions when ruled by committee seem validated.*
The withdrawal of the support as shown in the previous few days and as I look at the news showing a strike on air fields really is not what is needed.*
Looks like a back off and political in fighting at the expense of mission effectiveness.
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 14:20
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The time is rapidly approaching when we need to end this thing as quickly and as cleanly as possible. Continued dancing on the head of a pin named Resolution 1973 over whether we can or cannot target Gaddafi or whether we can or cannot arm the rebels serves only to increase the chances of becoming stuck in a quagmire from which we will be unable easily to escape. The most important risk in all this is that, when the inevitable time comes, we will have neither the appetite, ability nor political resolve to deal with the one that really matters – Iran. Libya is a side-show compared with preventing the mad mullahs in Tehran from getting a deliverable nuclear capability. When the Iran volcano erupts again, as it surely will, the stakes will be so high that, no matter how cynical, exhausted, over-committed and broke we may be, it will be one match where we can’t afford to stay on the bench.
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 14:43
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Just to come back. The support given up to yesterday by the coalition air strikes gave the irregular forces a chance to advance and gain advantage. It was clear that the air strikes were the major factor that allowed this advance. Withdraw this advantage and basically the advance was stuffed. Has the approach changed since NATO took responsibility answer YES. As usual involve NATO and the expected committee factor and then any chance of a swift conclusion is again stuffed.*
Having myself been involved in a enterprise under NATO when politically delicate, indecision and a inability to do the needful ended in failure. Hence my rather biased comments.
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Old 31st Mar 2011, 15:25
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RAF Sentinel Monitoring Libya

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