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u/s on start!
Oh dear, here we go...!
With redundancies on the near horizon, along with WW3 both in the Middle East and at home, isn't this a good a time as any to go u/s on start?
Put me down on the record for saying that within minutes of the first bomb landing, we will hear of civilian casualties, holy wars being revisited and bringing the war back onto our soil.
Can someone remind me of the air assets of the countries in the Arab League please.
Anyone else surprised with the voicelessness of Shami Chakrabarti over the last few weeks? As a regular, surely she would be a prime Question Time panelist with recent world events.
Apart from a stint on 'The Wright Stuff' where all she would say was ' in hindsight, perhaps we were naive', when briefly questioned why she, as a member of the board of the LSE, accepted £1.5 million from Gadaffis son, (not to mention the £2.2 mill civil service training contract) ..she is conspicuous by her absense.
With redundancies on the near horizon, along with WW3 both in the Middle East and at home, isn't this a good a time as any to go u/s on start?
Put me down on the record for saying that within minutes of the first bomb landing, we will hear of civilian casualties, holy wars being revisited and bringing the war back onto our soil.
Can someone remind me of the air assets of the countries in the Arab League please.
Anyone else surprised with the voicelessness of Shami Chakrabarti over the last few weeks? As a regular, surely she would be a prime Question Time panelist with recent world events.
Apart from a stint on 'The Wright Stuff' where all she would say was ' in hindsight, perhaps we were naive', when briefly questioned why she, as a member of the board of the LSE, accepted £1.5 million from Gadaffis son, (not to mention the £2.2 mill civil service training contract) ..she is conspicuous by her absense.
The ADF is risk averse with real hardware. Early A/Stan we sent F-18's to Diego Garcia. That is about as far from the action as you can get. A few F-18's in GW2 for a few weeks and scurry back home.
Ju-Liar and KRUdd are big talkers and no action. Krudd says "oh that is NATO's backyard"....
OK Kevvie get real and do something instead of talking..
Ju-Liar and KRUdd are big talkers and no action. Krudd says "oh that is NATO's backyard"....
OK Kevvie get real and do something instead of talking..
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Interesting point about Malta. Neutrality is enshrined in their 1987 Constitution with one vital caveat:
"Malta is a neutral state actively pursuing peace, security and social progress among all nations by adhering to a policy of non-alignment and refusing to participate in any military alliance.
Such a status will, in particular, imply that:
(a) no foreign military base will be permitted on Maltese territory;
(b) no military facilities in Malta will be allowed to be used by any foreign forces except at the request of the Government of Malta, and only in the following cases:
(i) in the exercise of the inherent right of self-defence in the event of any armed violation of the area over which the Republic of Malta has sovereignty, or in pursuance of measures or actions decided by the Security Council of the United Nations; "
Wonder if that last point will be mentioned by the world and his dog asking for basing facilities at Luqa?
See timesofmalta.com - Malta's neutrality provisions face sternest test
"Malta is a neutral state actively pursuing peace, security and social progress among all nations by adhering to a policy of non-alignment and refusing to participate in any military alliance.
Such a status will, in particular, imply that:
(a) no foreign military base will be permitted on Maltese territory;
(b) no military facilities in Malta will be allowed to be used by any foreign forces except at the request of the Government of Malta, and only in the following cases:
(i) in the exercise of the inherent right of self-defence in the event of any armed violation of the area over which the Republic of Malta has sovereignty, or in pursuance of measures or actions decided by the Security Council of the United Nations; "
Wonder if that last point will be mentioned by the world and his dog asking for basing facilities at Luqa?
See timesofmalta.com - Malta's neutrality provisions face sternest test
Last edited by Unixman; 18th Mar 2011 at 10:32. Reason: Date wrong
SiloeSid wrote
Probably one of the most useful assets would be the Algerian Air Force? They have Su-30MKA Flankers and can support them with their IL-78 Midas tankers.
After a quick spin on the web it appears that Algeria has reservations and had initially opposed it.
The vote approving the no-fly zone was opposed by Syria and Algeria on the grounds that such action could lead to foreign intervention. However, in an address to his Arab League peers, Algerian Foreign Minister Mourad Medelci called for guaranteeing Libyas security and territorial integrity, APS reported.
Arab League backs Libya no-fly zone (Magharebia.com)
TJ
Can someone remind me of the air assets of the countries in the Arab League please.
After a quick spin on the web it appears that Algeria has reservations and had initially opposed it.
The vote approving the no-fly zone was opposed by Syria and Algeria on the grounds that such action could lead to foreign intervention. However, in an address to his Arab League peers, Algerian Foreign Minister Mourad Medelci called for guaranteeing Libyas security and territorial integrity, APS reported.
Arab League backs Libya no-fly zone (Magharebia.com)
TJ
I have to say Silsoesid sums up a major point here.
The politicians have unleashed the dogs of war and will be the first to look for someone to blame as soon as there is some bad PR.
For the non Aus here we have had a our dumped ex PM, now foreign minister running around on every form of media we have here pumping for this NFZ and then offering nothing to help out.(more about making himself look more in charge than the person who rolled him for PM). He knew full well we wouldn't send anything to help because 1. Its too far and 2. NATO would do the job
The same politicians who are putting on a court martial for some Aussie Army troops who under fire in the sandpit chucked a grenade back and tragically killed a child....but that is the tragic certainty of war.
The same politicians in GB who are cutting back on the military at the same time as they send them off to another war zone.
And what for in this case?
I fail to see what a NFZ alone will achieve here?
A case of pollies in all countries doing something to make themselves look good, but washing their hands of all responsibility.
The politicians have unleashed the dogs of war and will be the first to look for someone to blame as soon as there is some bad PR.
For the non Aus here we have had a our dumped ex PM, now foreign minister running around on every form of media we have here pumping for this NFZ and then offering nothing to help out.(more about making himself look more in charge than the person who rolled him for PM). He knew full well we wouldn't send anything to help because 1. Its too far and 2. NATO would do the job
The same politicians who are putting on a court martial for some Aussie Army troops who under fire in the sandpit chucked a grenade back and tragically killed a child....but that is the tragic certainty of war.
The same politicians in GB who are cutting back on the military at the same time as they send them off to another war zone.
And what for in this case?
I fail to see what a NFZ alone will achieve here?
A case of pollies in all countries doing something to make themselves look good, but washing their hands of all responsibility.
Can someone remind me of the air assets of the countries in the Arab League please
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Thats two SF260s into the mix!
A handful of Typhoons to be based in Malta possibly and Palermo is quite nice at this time of year apparently.
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