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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 12:34
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Scenes From Libya - Photographs - NYTimes.com
"A member of the opposition prayed for safety as he stood guard near the Mediterranean Sea in Benghazi. He held a surface-to-air missile launcher to protect the rebels from incoming planes."
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Could be from Blackpool and aimed at Warton
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It's actually a very good photo - but not as I remember my childhood days along the promenade at Hastings!

By the way, is the SAM shown merely point-and-shoot or more sophisticated in terms of finding the target?
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engineer(retard) wrote;
Could be from Blackpool and aimed at Warton
If so, he's going to miss. Should be aiming in the direction of the cameraman!
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"Unfortunately for the seagull, Ahmed has the last laugh over his stolen ice cream"
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Dutch Navy Lynx captured by Libyans

BBC News - Libya TV shows captured Dutch navy helicopter crew
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is the SAM shown merely point-and-shoot or more sophisticated in terms of finding the target?
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Looks to me like a 9К32 “Cтрела-2” (Strela-2, Arrow), known to the professional military denizens of this forum as an SA-7 Grail.

So it's a heat-seeking missile designed in the late 60s. So not a very good one. You're theoretically supposed to aim ahead of the target to reduce the horrible inefficiency of the course the thing will fly in order to hit it. More or less comprehensive operator's instructions are available on Wikipedia, hilariously.

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Looks to me like a 9К32 “Cтрела-2” (Strela-2, Arrow), known to the professional military denizens of this forum as an SA-7 Grail.
Now we have to worry about the looted MANPADS hitting the black market.

The Perils of Libya's Loose Arms - NYTimes.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/04/wo...04weapons.html
Experts Fear Looted Libyan Arms May Find Way to Terrorists
By C. J. CHIVERS
Published: March 3, 2011
PS: Also a ZPU-4 - quad 14.5mm heavy machine guns in the background
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Now if that was the UK he would have a sawn off broom handle on his shoulders with CPX Strela taped to the side of it...... whilst standing in a oblong of lashing tape pegged to the ground marked CPX trench....
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Could be from Blackpool and aimed at Warton
If so, he's going to miss. Should be aiming in the direction of the cameraman!

Sorry both wrong. He would damage Southport pointing towards the cameraman.Needs to move through 180degrees.
For the record I believe a NFZ to be foolish and we don't have the assets anyway.
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Well, somebody has been reading the instructions. One Libyan AF aircraft was shot down today.
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What's the details mic? We know of the claim for 28th Feb but not heard of one today.
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What's the details mic? We know of the claim for 28th Feb but not heard of one today.
Libyan rebels show off downed plane, dead fliers | Agricultural Commodities | Reuters
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Thanks for the update Lono. Notwithstanding, would a NFZ made any difference?
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Could be from Blackpool and aimed at Warton
Brilliant mate made me chuckle.

But more seriously:

BBC News - Saudi Arabia imposes ban on all protests

So will we consider a NFZ on this country or are they still allowed to oppress their people without fear of intervention from the UK and USA.
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He may be a son of a bitch, but he's he's our son of a bitch.


That's been the US foreign policy for at least half a century.

It worked for Mubarak for 40 years. It didn't apply to to Gaddafi for any of 40 years because he wasn't bribable and didn't respond well to threats.
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Showing the remains of the crew on the news, not cool, they will have families

Anyone else not think telling Gaddafi and Co they are going to be held accountable for war crimes is a bad move ? no one will be able to enforce that if they hold the country, so all it does is make them use more means to try and do that................
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So, exactly which side are we meant to be protecting with this proposed NFZ ....

BBC News - 'No comment' from MoD over SAS men captured in Libya
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Ident of the shot down aircraft. Su-24 Fencer.



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