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Old 27th Jan 2011, 20:03
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Its like the bloody spelling police on here, read just don't type pllleeeeaaaassee !
Why not? It was in reply to the usual let's knock the ignorant press post.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 20:06
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I see the tug (Anglian Prince) is back on the pier but there was a Minesweeper pootling about the Loch Ewe area a few days ago. If it's still in the area it might be able to find the bits?
 
Old 27th Jan 2011, 20:11
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I just noticed this comment had been inserted into the BBC article on the crash:

He said the crew told him that they were forced to ditch after the plane caught fire at 6,000 feet.
If its a fire, are we looking at fatigue problems in equipment? If so what impact will this have on the threatened aircraft?
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 20:21
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Good to know the crew can talk, but lets keep the speculation down for a few days? There may be lots of implications here, let the investigators investigate..
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 20:22
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 20:22
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How do you get fatigue problems from a report of a fire? FFS, please don't speculate, you'll only set the idiots off and running. There's no corroboration and speculation is pointless. Th BoI will already have been convened, we should await their findings.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 21:02
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strong rumour going around that it was an a/c on test in the maritime recce role. Pie oven retrofitted from the MRA4 overheated and caught fire. Rest is history.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 22:16
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I note from the BBC report that a MCA Tug is on it's way to the scene at a time when the tugs are under threat. Presume this means the Tornado is beached on a sand bank then?"

Bloody hell guys, I know the RAF is jealous of the RN, but just because the RN puts something on the sandbanks, doesnt means that you have to copy them

Delighted to hear both crew are well.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 22:17
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Glad to hear both are ok.

Is it still true that a certain tie entitles you to beers at M-B expense? If so, enjoy!

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Old 27th Jan 2011, 22:18
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Fire = Fuel + Heat + Oxygen... Last one is easy, other two need some investigation.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 23:50
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Very pleased to hear that the crew are OK. If the aircraft is still intact (unlikely) I'm curious went wrong.
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 00:01
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There is some really pointless posts on here lets just hear what the crew say please!
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 00:52
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I completely agree...

"Glad to hear they are ok, jets can be replaced, people can't."

But..is that really the case with the RAF these days?

...the bit about the jets, I mean...
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 05:45
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For all those who want to speculate - please go ahead if you have any ideas of what may have happened.

It doesn't do any harm at all to speculate on an internet rumour board as to what may have gone wrong. For the "ooooh mustn't speculate" brigade - stop being so pompous - it is only PPRUNE not the AAIB or a BoI.
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 07:55
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Glad they are relatively unharmed and a speedy recovery to them both
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 08:26
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For all those who want to speculate - please go ahead if you have any ideas of what may have happened.

It doesn't do any harm at all to speculate on an internet rumour board as to what may have gone wrong. For the "ooooh mustn't speculate" brigade - stop being so pompous - it is only PPRuNe not the AAIB or a BoI.
It was a mid-air with a late-running Father Christmas.

Trouble is, there are enough idiots around who will read an uninformed speculative post on here regarding something that is rightly confidential and take it as gospel, repeating it endlessly and gathering credence due to volume as it goes.

Anyway, the initial signal is out with some of the facts for those who have access to it. Most important is that the crew got out and no-one else was hurt.
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 09:11
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Any chance you could PM me any details you have from the signal: I'm in Germany and have no access to the Brit system whilst flying the deutsche flavour of Tonka.
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 09:22
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I'd just like to add my comments that I hope the crew are OK and are back with their colleagues, friends and families as soon as possible.

It kind of puts my bad days in the office into some kind of perspective.
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 09:48
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Glad the crew got out safely. Always a satisfying feeling for the bomb’eads who fitted the seats.

As it appears to have been a fire, a few of us here could speculate on several theories based on history, but will keep my thoughts to myself for now.

Does anybody know which Sqn they were from?
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 09:57
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Originally Posted by EW73
jets can be replaced, . . . But..is that really the case with the RAF these days?\
Yes, given the rumoured plans to reduce the number of GR4s.

However sod's law will apply.

If there are X knackered jets earmarked for early retirement, any jet that crashes will be from the less knackered pool.
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