New Falklands War Brewing
Yeah, good point. But I would say this - without compromising our position there (which we all should consider when expressing our views). We have the tankers, Command and Control and (most importantly) the attack assets to do it, if we had to. Admittedly we would have to scale back on other ops. Which we would. Don't think for a moment that this hasn't been considered.
But that, of course isn't Plan A. That is still the best option and is still a strong hand.
[Edit: These posts seem to be getting jumbled up and moved around. This doesn't really belong here. In fact, this was posted in response to someone elses post with the link that Mr B's posted below. Wierd.]
But that, of course isn't Plan A. That is still the best option and is still a strong hand.
[Edit: These posts seem to be getting jumbled up and moved around. This doesn't really belong here. In fact, this was posted in response to someone elses post with the link that Mr B's posted below. Wierd.]
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There's a neat summary on the BBC News website:
BBC News - Could Britain still defend the Falklands?
Mister B
BBC News - Could Britain still defend the Falklands?
Mister B
it may be neat, but a good wedge of it is wrong.
in the article, Micheal Clarke, Director of RUSI, talks about a capability to stage strike aircraft out of Assension and use them to attack the FI in the event of a successfull Argentine Invasion.
would any ppruners care to guess/invent which currently serving, weapons carrying RAF platorm has the capability to fly from Assension to the FI, do its Deed of Dasterdly Death, and fly back to Assension?
how long does it take to fly to the FI and back - and how long can a Typhoon or Tornado keep its engines lubricated?
in the article, Micheal Clarke, Director of RUSI, talks about a capability to stage strike aircraft out of Assension and use them to attack the FI in the event of a successfull Argentine Invasion.
would any ppruners care to guess/invent which currently serving, weapons carrying RAF platorm has the capability to fly from Assension to the FI, do its Deed of Dasterdly Death, and fly back to Assension?
how long does it take to fly to the FI and back - and how long can a Typhoon or Tornado keep its engines lubricated?
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It's rather ironic that Ms Kirchener denies the Islanders their right to self determination on the grounds that they settled there by force fairly recently when most Argentinians did the same in 'their' country at around the same time or even afterwards. And yet she can't see the hypocrisy in her situation.
The UK should stop giving financial aid to Argentina immediately until they cease this harassment.
The UK should stop giving financial aid to Argentina immediately until they cease this harassment.
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Up until recently I thought that the Argentinian government had some common sense. This, clearly, is not the case!
Sanctions with Britain will only hurt them and yes, if we are giving aid then this should have stopped in 1982 and should never have resumed.
Sanctions with Britain will only hurt them and yes, if we are giving aid then this should have stopped in 1982 and should never have resumed.
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This extract is from the Daily Telegraph on-line, under the "comment" tab, with the big byline:
Hit Argentina where it hurts – in the wallet
Despite the Falklands sabre-rattling, British aid to Buenos Aires continues to flow.
Did you know that your taxes are supporting loans going to Argentina? As President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner continues to make waves over the sovereignty of the Falklands, the British Government continues to vote through billions of pounds in international aid to her country, primarily through the World Bank and the EU. According to a poll by ComRes, of those few British adults who are aware of such expenditure, barely 6 per cent support it.
Barack Obama’s administration certainly isn’t in favour of such action. It has started voting against loans to Argentina from international financial institutions, and is looking for allies in its tough stance. Britain should be first in line…
…the ease with which Argentina has flouted its obligations encourages its government to think it is able to behave however it chooses. But if Britain were to take action and stand up to Argentina financially – by, for example, joining the Obama administration in voting against World Bank loans for the country – it would send a strong message that its G20 partners are no longer willing to overlook irresponsible behaviour. You never know, it might even stop the sabre-rattling over the Falklands as well.
Nancy Soderberg was a senior US diplomat, and is co-chair of the American Task Force Argentina
That's the top and tail of it; there's plenty more illustrating the Argentine government's caballero aproch to world finance. Perhaps we should get alongside the USA's Irish president - Barry O'bama - to give 'em a financial slap (and don't forget, "it was the Sun wot won it!").
Mister B
Hit Argentina where it hurts – in the wallet
Despite the Falklands sabre-rattling, British aid to Buenos Aires continues to flow.
Did you know that your taxes are supporting loans going to Argentina? As President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner continues to make waves over the sovereignty of the Falklands, the British Government continues to vote through billions of pounds in international aid to her country, primarily through the World Bank and the EU. According to a poll by ComRes, of those few British adults who are aware of such expenditure, barely 6 per cent support it.
Barack Obama’s administration certainly isn’t in favour of such action. It has started voting against loans to Argentina from international financial institutions, and is looking for allies in its tough stance. Britain should be first in line…
…the ease with which Argentina has flouted its obligations encourages its government to think it is able to behave however it chooses. But if Britain were to take action and stand up to Argentina financially – by, for example, joining the Obama administration in voting against World Bank loans for the country – it would send a strong message that its G20 partners are no longer willing to overlook irresponsible behaviour. You never know, it might even stop the sabre-rattling over the Falklands as well.
Nancy Soderberg was a senior US diplomat, and is co-chair of the American Task Force Argentina
That's the top and tail of it; there's plenty more illustrating the Argentine government's caballero aproch to world finance. Perhaps we should get alongside the USA's Irish president - Barry O'bama - to give 'em a financial slap (and don't forget, "it was the Sun wot won it!").
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So now Roger Waters of Pink Floyd jumps on the bandwagon, stating that the "Malvninas should be Argentinian". Something to do with the fact that he is currently touring Argentina perhaps. Good to see that both he and Dave Gilmour, whose son thought the Cenotaph was a climbing frame, can be relied upon to fly the flag for Britain. Stupid old drug-addled hippy.
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I see that Morrisey, he of the utterly depressing lyrics and irritating nasal whine, has jumped aboard the bandwagon telling an audience in Cordoba that "the Falklands belong to Argentina, and please don't blame the British people because we know that they do". Muppet!!!
What is it with superannuated celebrities?
I presume he will make the same claims the next time he performs in Stanley or Aldershot.
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What is it with superannuated celebrities?
I presume he will make the same claims the next time he performs in Stanley or Aldershot.
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A Cunning Plan...
I think I may have a solution to this one.....
From what I can gather, Argentina is desperate to own a windswept lump of rock, miles from nowhere, devoid of civilisation and with nothing to do other than spot sheep (yes I did say "spot").
Said lump of rock needs to have its own airfield, and maybe a smaller one thrown in........ so in return for abandoning their claim on the Falklands, let's offer them Anglesey! It'll save the taxpayer the cost of maintaining a garrison 8,000 miles from the UK and the even higher cost of subsidising the armpit of the universe.
From what I can gather, Argentina is desperate to own a windswept lump of rock, miles from nowhere, devoid of civilisation and with nothing to do other than spot sheep (yes I did say "spot").
Said lump of rock needs to have its own airfield, and maybe a smaller one thrown in........ so in return for abandoning their claim on the Falklands, let's offer them Anglesey! It'll save the taxpayer the cost of maintaining a garrison 8,000 miles from the UK and the even higher cost of subsidising the armpit of the universe.
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I think I may have a solution to this one.....
From what I can gather, Argentina is desperate to own a windswept lump of rock, miles from nowhere, devoid of civilisation and with nothing to do other than spot sheep (yes I did say "spot").
Said lump of rock needs to have its own airfield, and maybe a smaller one thrown in........ so in return for abandoning their claim on the Falklands, let's offer them New Zealand! It'll save the taxpayer the cost of maintaining an interest 11,638 miles from the UK and the even higher cost of subsidising the armpit of the universe.
From what I can gather, Argentina is desperate to own a windswept lump of rock, miles from nowhere, devoid of civilisation and with nothing to do other than spot sheep (yes I did say "spot").
Said lump of rock needs to have its own airfield, and maybe a smaller one thrown in........ so in return for abandoning their claim on the Falklands, let's offer them New Zealand! It'll save the taxpayer the cost of maintaining an interest 11,638 miles from the UK and the even higher cost of subsidising the armpit of the universe.
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Hmm...BH...a flight of whimsy there because you can't offer something over which you have no influence,and bugger all subsidy. Didn't you Perfidious Albion lot already ditch New Zealand?
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In the not too distant future, New Zealand will only consist of the land and a few Maori's and politicians, the rest will be living in Australia.
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Hmm...BH...a flight of whumsy there because you can't offer something over which you have no influence,and bugger all subsidy. Didn't you Perfidious Albion lot already dutch New Zealand?
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In the not too distant future, New Zealand will only consist of the land and a few Maori's and politicians, the rest will be living in Australia.
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"You forgot the sheep...
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They'll have taken them with them to Australia with all their other creature comforts that go with them - gum boots, velcro gloves.
After all, do you expect Aussie ladies to sleep with them after they've been with the sheep
"They'll have taken them with them to Australia with all their other creature comforts that go with them - gum boots, velcro gloves.
After all, do you expect Aussie ladies to sleep with them after they've been with the sheep