New Falklands War Brewing
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If the Argies get beligerent again we can send all our carriers down (suggest scuttleing them as block ships in the River Plate estuary - although that idea didn`t work to well for Adolf). We could lease back the Harriers from the USMC, get the Vulcan back in action, tank both the remaining UK Typhoons to ascention to join up with a Tonker and conscript the Portsmouth ACF into the Marines. This would give us the fighting force necessary to defend our territory. Simples!
B1B? OK - Its a fair cop! - out of 84 bombs..... it might get more than 1 on the runway!
I`ll get my coat...
I`ll get my coat...
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"I suspect it is because they are usually on first name terms with both Baaa bara and Maaaa tilda but I could be wrong."
Don't forget Maaaaartha and Maaaable as well
Don't forget Maaaaartha and Maaaable as well
...Maybe the Argentines just want a more modern runway from which to play with their toys?
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Argentina might, unwittingly, have gained an ally of sorts, now that the EU is pissed off with the Poms. I wonder if there's anything they might exploit?
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"Anyway, what they going to do? Make us give away the Falklands?"
They will do just like the UN does, postulate, chest beat and issue strongly worded statements and if the country they are aimed at doesn't want to take any notice, it won't.
They will do just like the UN does, postulate, chest beat and issue strongly worded statements and if the country they are aimed at doesn't want to take any notice, it won't.
Yeah, that's right! I say "bring it on". All it took to sort them out last time was 111 ships, the Harrier Force, Sea Harrier, Nimrod, Victor Tankers, loads of helos, a Vulcan, Phantoms on Ascension and a Prime Minister with an iron will.
So what's to stop us doing it again??? Oh, yes. Maggie's not PM any more, is she?
So what's to stop us doing it again??? Oh, yes. Maggie's not PM any more, is she?
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It was not just Lady T as Prime Minister but the significant number of Cabinet Ministers who had served in the Military. Lord Carrington (for example) had been a Tank Commander in Guards Armoured Division. The Leader of the Opposition had served in the RN in WW2 and had been Commissioned from the Ranks.
Very few MP's today have Military experience.
Very few MP's today have Military experience.
Hmm. Think I ended up making the wrong point there, but never mind.
In 1977, 216 out of 630 MPs were ex military. Twenty years later it was down to 60 out of 658. I think the total now is about 10. The only current Labour MP with Mil experience is Major Eric Joyce (the first MP to claim more than £1 million in expenses).
Every prime minister from 1940 to 1963 had served as an infantry officer in WW1. Times change, I guess.
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In 1977, 216 out of 630 MPs were ex military. Twenty years later it was down to 60 out of 658. I think the total now is about 10. The only current Labour MP with Mil experience is Major Eric Joyce (the first MP to claim more than £1 million in expenses).
Every prime minister from 1940 to 1963 had served as an infantry officer in WW1. Times change, I guess.
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Ah, Eric Joyce, who was a jock, not universally loved by his peers. Left the Army to go to Uni, then rejoined as an education officer. Done for drink driving after hitting some road furniture last year near the BP refinery in Grangemouth.
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Courtney Mil:
"The only current Labour MP with Mil experience is Major Eric Joyce (the first MP to claim more than £1 million in expenses"
Bit out of date. Major Dan Jarvis, The Parachute Regiment, won the Barnsley Central by-election this year on behalf of Labour. Joined in 1997 and served in Kosovo, Sierra Leone, Northern Ireland, Iraq and Afghanistan twice (first time as part of the reconnaissance team that assessed Helmand in 2005-6 and latterly as a company commander with the Special Forces Support Group).
"The only current Labour MP with Mil experience is Major Eric Joyce (the first MP to claim more than £1 million in expenses"
Bit out of date. Major Dan Jarvis, The Parachute Regiment, won the Barnsley Central by-election this year on behalf of Labour. Joined in 1997 and served in Kosovo, Sierra Leone, Northern Ireland, Iraq and Afghanistan twice (first time as part of the reconnaissance team that assessed Helmand in 2005-6 and latterly as a company commander with the Special Forces Support Group).
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From the link above
The lady is gathering allies. Any chance the FCO have their fingers on the pulse this time?
Argentina's President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, who took over the presidency of the trade bloc from Mr Mujica, thanked her fellow presidents for the show of support.
Delivering a speech to the summit, she said: "I want to thank everyone for their immense solidarity with the Malvinas.
"But you should know that when you are signing something on the Malvinas in favour of Argentina you are also doing it in your own defence.
"Malvinas is not an Argentine cause, it is a global cause, because in the Malvinas they are taking our oil and fishing resources.
"And when there is need for more resources, those who are strong are going to look for them wherever and however they can."
Delivering a speech to the summit, she said: "I want to thank everyone for their immense solidarity with the Malvinas.
"But you should know that when you are signing something on the Malvinas in favour of Argentina you are also doing it in your own defence.
"Malvinas is not an Argentine cause, it is a global cause, because in the Malvinas they are taking our oil and fishing resources.
"And when there is need for more resources, those who are strong are going to look for them wherever and however they can."
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If we want to talk dangerous......
I would love to have been a fly on the wall in the Argentine military when this request came in. Falklands defended by four Typhoon aircraft, two plus the tanker get diverted and if these get 'eliminated' then who is the caretaker?
I would love to have been a fly on the wall in the Argentine military when this request came in. Falklands defended by four Typhoon aircraft, two plus the tanker get diverted and if these get 'eliminated' then who is the caretaker?
In early June 2010 two Typhoons and the VC-10 air tanker based on the Falklands had to divert to Punta Arenas in Chile after poor weather closed Mount Pleasant. This required the aircraft to fly over Tierra del Fuego; authorization for this was given by the Argentinian Air Force. No doubt there was nervousness when the request had to be sent out, with how Argentina behaves about the islands and the planes going in and out of them!
