2011: New Year's Honours for Service personnel and Defence civilian

[doubledolphins]

Long Service Medals for Officers

I've got one. As have most Volunteer Reserve officers with more than 10 years service. The medal, the VRSM, is awarded accross all three services irrespective of Rank or Rate.

[Roadster280]

I even forgot I was 'on' one day and went home (57 miles away) to be met by the adjt the next day to say I owed him one

And that exemplifies why there is an issue. Had an SAC or Pte "gone home" instead of attending guard mount, he'd have been charged with "Absent from place of duty". That charge is sufficiently serious to usually attract some time being spent in the greybar hotel. Goodbye LS & GC, hello "cards marked".

Of course it would be more serious for an officer to be charged with the same offence, it would often mean end of commission. However, that is too serious a punishment, and so the matter is swept under the carpet, and the Adjt (the very bloke responsible for discipline!!) is "owed one".

Until this kind of inequity is dealt with, then there will be disquiet.

(Nothing personal PN, just using your post as an example of why things aren't right.)

[Tankertrashnav]

Had an SAC or Pte "gone home" instead of attending guard mount, he'd have been charged with "Absent from place of duty". That charge is sufficiently serious to usually attract some time being spent in the greybar hotel. Goodbye LS & GC, hello "cards marked".

Hmm - reminds me of the time when as SDO I found that the orderly corporal hadn't turned up for duty. After sending someone to look for him, I found he was asleep in his bunk, having "forgotten". I immediately put him on a charge (this was at Kai Tak in 1968 during a period of civil tension). Next day his flight commander rang me and asked if I would consider dropping the charge as they were having problems with a new bit of kit and this was obviously preying on the corporal's mind! I thought, if thats the way you want to run your flight, sod it, and I let it go!

But then I was just the nasty rockape officer and he was a highly trained technician - what did I know!

[ian16th]

curvedsky

Been away, sorry for the delay in answering.

Thanks for you URL. Does this mean there has been a change in the criteria? I was aware of the MoRAF Mike Beetham award as he told me that I'd helped him get it!

That was me and a hundred an odd others on 214 at the time

Can Tankertrashnav, with his knowledge of decorations help?

[cazatou]

AARON

Re your post 28

The ballot was for Commissioned Officers only as to whether or not they should receive a LSGC medal. The result was they should NOT by a substantial margin.

[AARON O'DICKYDIDO]

cazatou

Thank you for that.

[Wensleydale]

A slightly off thread and perhaps daft question....

If an airman (or SNCO) fails the fitness test and receives the inevitable formal warning for displaying a poor attitude towards physical fitness, will this affect their entitlement to the LSGC?

[Al R]

Next day his flight commander rang me and asked if I would consider dropping the charge as they were having problems with a new bit of kit and this was obviously preying on the corporal's mind!

My god TTN, thats just dreadful. I hope you apologised 'n stuff.

[Old-Duffer]

You've Given The Game Away ....

.... TankerTrashNav.

If you were the Rock at Kai Tak in '68, then you must be the same bloke who carried the 'homemade squadron standard' on the Queens Birthday Parade that year - and I have the photographic evidence to prove it!!

Old Duffer

[NUFC1892]

A slightly off thread and perhaps daft question....

If an airman (or SNCO) fails the fitness test and receives the inevitable formal warning for displaying a poor attitude towards physical fitness, will this affect their entitlement to the LSGC?

Not unless he murders the PTI