Continued Argentine intimidation of the Falklands
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Let's send Ark Royal and some Harriers down there....
Talking of lessons not learned... Oops.
Talking of lessons not learned... Oops.
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Maggie,the last politician we had with guts,harriers the Ark,Invincible,et al,Imagine the frogs helping us,if need be?
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That would be good if the French helped. I think we might need them looking at what has gone on. I think they might come to England's aid. I wouldn't rely on the US.
Maybe a few Exocet's (or current version thereof) sent into Agentinian's Navy
- or whatever they have left of it.
Maybe a few Exocet's (or current version thereof) sent into Agentinian's Navy
- or whatever they have left of it.
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rather more effectively lets send another four Typhoons, four GR4's and a pair of E-3's. unlike a carrier we can do that indefinately, and like a carrier it shows - unlike four Typhoons - that we are serious.
the other SA countries are willing to back Argentina (to whatever degree and however seriously) because they see the current UK force on the Islands as not being an indication of our seriousness on this issue.
regardless of the actual effectiveness and military logic of four typhoons, politically four fighters says 'meh' - and the decision to back Argentina is a political one.
the other SA countries are willing to back Argentina (to whatever degree and however seriously) because they see the current UK force on the Islands as not being an indication of our seriousness on this issue.
regardless of the actual effectiveness and military logic of four typhoons, politically four fighters says 'meh' - and the decision to back Argentina is a political one.
... As much as I am (a) anti-Crab and (b) Pro FAA/AAC I have to agree 100% with this statement. And in view of the fact that a wheem of airbases are about to close it makes perfect sense to ease the strain on the bases that are left in Blighty and put a full squadron of Typhoons and GR4's down to MPA.
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Do you think that the BBMF Lancaster could be fitted with a refuelling boom and be sent on a long range mission to MPA once it has been overrun?
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SilsoeSid Do you think that the BBMF Lancaster could be fitted with a refuelling boom and be sent on a long range mission to MPA once it has been overrun?
Probably easier to create the original Black Buck missions with XH558 - now that's a private/public partnership I could get behind!
Probably easier to create the original Black Buck missions with XH558 - now that's a private/public partnership I could get behind!
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althenick. I think the smiley thing must have dropped off the end of your Post.
Has anyone else noticed, generally, how many people write Posts that clearly suggest that few of the previous Posts have been read?
Has anyone else noticed, generally, how many people write Posts that clearly suggest that few of the previous Posts have been read?
Has anyone else noticed, generally, how many people write Posts that clearly suggest that few of the previous Posts have been read?
Shirley, you can't be serious.
Maybe this should be merged with this: So how vulnerable are the Falklands now ?
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Also: WikiLeaks: US concerned over Falklands military action
GBZ
What is a DED?
Also: WikiLeaks: US concerned over Falklands military action
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Pity then that she led a Government whose Defence Review in 1981 suggested a lack of interest in defending British interests outside the narrow NATO area. The subsequent Foreign Policy disaster caused by the Falklands War cost Lord Carrington his job. More importantly it then took the lives of over 300 servicemen to restore both the Falklands to British rule and the reputation of Mrs T.
Story was on news of the Falkands invasion Mrs T asked if the Navy would despatch Ark Royal, the one that paid off in 1978.
Pity then that she led a Government whose Defence Review in 1981 suggested a lack of interest in defending British interests outside the narrow NATO area. The subsequent Foreign Policy disaster caused by the Falklands War cost Lord Carrington his job. More importantly it then took the lives of over 300 servicemen to restore both the Falklands to British rule and the reputation of Mrs T.
Story was on news of the Falkands invasion Mrs T asked if the Navy would despatch Ark Royal, the one that paid off in 1978.
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Why not lay up the Ark and her Harriers THERE instead of HERE?
They could load enough stores to last for a while . . . then there's always the airbridge . . . whoops, no aircraft.
They could load enough stores to last for a while . . . then there's always the airbridge . . . whoops, no aircraft.
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HMG has mentioned nothing about storage. Ark Royal will be scrapped or sold. Either Illustrious or Ocean will run on as a helicopter carrier with the latter coming out of refit soon and the latter in need of one.
Choices? Well HMG could store some Harriers "just in case" and run on Illustrious but cancelling Oceans sceduled refit would cause employment issues at Devonport. My guess is this will go ahead with Illustrious taken out of service just as soon as Ocean is available again.
We then hope that PM Cameron is right and that we can do without a fixed wing capability at sea until the new carrier(s) arrive.
Choices? Well HMG could store some Harriers "just in case" and run on Illustrious but cancelling Oceans sceduled refit would cause employment issues at Devonport. My guess is this will go ahead with Illustrious taken out of service just as soon as Ocean is available again.
We then hope that PM Cameron is right and that we can do without a fixed wing capability at sea until the new carrier(s) arrive.
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Pity then that she led a Government whose Defence Review in 1981 suggested a lack of interest in defending British interests outside the narrow NATO area. The subsequent Foreign Policy disaster caused by the Falklands War cost Lord Carrington his job. More importantly it then took the lives of over 300 servicemen to restore both the Falklands to British rule and the reputation of Mrs T.
More importantly it then took the lives of over 300 servicemen to restore both the Falklands to British rule and the reputation of Mrs T.
P.S. Not servicemen, but three Falkland Islanders died in the conflict too.
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Responsibility?
Not to be too pedantic but I think you'll find it was the Junta's actions and Mrs T's reactions, rather than the other way around!
That signal, amongst others, had much to do with the junta’s subsequent actions. By comparison, the present shameful acts re Ark Royal and the Harriers must look like a gift-wrapped invitation to reach for the old 1982 amphibious landing files and have another go? In their shoes I’d wait til the cutting torches have completed the rest of the RN Fleet downsizing exercise and then kick-off. As ever, should it happen, it won't be the politicians who'll pay with their lives.