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Mrs Bloggs 'At Home' Etiquette/Protocols

Old 29th Dec 2010, 15:56
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Old-Duffer, quite so. The very thought of some uncultured oik quaffing beer at such a gathering.... How dreadfully lower order.

Drink at an 'At Home' is merely a courtesy, not an enabling device.
Beagle, you are Margo Leadbetter and I claim my £10.
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Old 29th Dec 2010, 16:41
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Beagle, you are Margo Leadbetter and I claim my £10.
BEagle as posh totty? If you're correct, does that make the rest of us PPruners the collective equivalent of her long suffering and put up on husband Jerry?



Only kidding Margot!
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Old 29th Dec 2010, 17:25
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Beagle, you are Margo Leadbetter
With a sprinkling of Hyacinth Bucket, pronounced Bouquet.
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Old 29th Dec 2010, 18:59
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CS,since when were those of us with certain antecedents required to join the "21st Century" - I have trouble remembering we are in it !

I find myself (troublingly) in the same corner as Beagle and OD - many and oft it was a choice? of gin, whisky, and water , with an orange juice lurking somewhere.
Only departure from that was at RN home, when whisky didn't feature.
Then of course the RN cockers P, where it was pre-mixed gin/bitters/water, until second jug onwards, when the water must have been on ration?
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Old 29th Dec 2010, 19:22
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The purpose of an 'At Home' or whatever you want to call it, is to socialise with ones friends and colleagues etc:
And in this case, to ogle a woman while your wife is at home with a sick child.

It's another proof point that these social conventions and protocols both promoted and mocked in these 500+ posts don't actually improve civility, all they do provide a facade for the lack of civility to hide behind.

At least the cave men were honest about what they were after.

Cynically yours,
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Old 29th Dec 2010, 20:11
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Chop, Beags and OD off the guest list for one's At Home at one's brewery then....
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Old 29th Dec 2010, 20:15
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Agreed old chap!
And why did EV even bother to join in - T.....r
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Old 29th Dec 2010, 20:53
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Sorry, EV - don't agree.

There is a difference between 'banter' and ribald comment and what actually happens on the occasion.

There is of course all sorts of innuendo but the overriding situation of an 'at home' is the entertainment of ones' guests and ensuring that everybody enjoys themselves. There will, sometimes, be a bit of showing off but I have never been to a social event of this sort where there has been any delberate lack of civility towards the guests.

As to 'ogling' the opposite sex, there is a world of difference between finding a member of the opposite sex attractive/personable and stepping over the line. The phrase; 'you can window shop but not buy' probably sums it up.

As for your complaint that MM left his wife at home with sick child whilst he went 'on the pull', is unworthy of you and you should retract.

Old Duffer - in pompous mode again.
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Old 29th Dec 2010, 23:59
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Ahh, I'm glad there is finally something on this thread upon which a peasant such as I can agree with my esteemed, if slightly anachronistic, elders chopd95 and Old-Duffer:

Very poor form ElectroVlasic. Very poor form indeed. Bad dog !

Even us beer-loving oiks who have no standards whatsoever know better than to make such silly accusations in public
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Old 30th Dec 2010, 00:16
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Even I, who is lucky to have a beautiful lady as my wife, would find it hard not to be drawn into conversation with an attractive lady standing there with her flys undone!
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Old 30th Dec 2010, 07:27
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Ah Parabellum,

Whilst I have no doubt that the beautiful Mrs PB would be amused, should she notice you chatting with a lady in - shall we say - slightly dishevelled appearance: that amusement might not survive, if it were your flys that were unzipped, rather than the lady's.

And as for you Cargosales - who are you calling 'anachronistic elders'. I demand satisfaction and shall have my Second call on you at an early opportunity. And when I've finished giving you a good thrashing, chopd95 can deal with what's left. Damned impertinence of you youngsters, I blame the education system myself, and the Vote at 18, chunter, chunter, chunter.

Ah well time to walk the dogs and set them on any unruly peasants we encounter.

O-D : feeling better already.
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Old 30th Dec 2010, 11:51
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uncultured oik quaffing beer
We must all hope that at the return match the Colonel doesn't respond to MM's 'what are you having sir?' with 'I rather fancy a beer old boy'
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Old 30th Dec 2010, 12:59
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Old 30th Dec 2010, 18:18
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And why did EV even bother to join in
Educational purposes, yours and mine both.

I just found it interesting to read that some wrote this thread wasn't about willy-waving, but that's exactly what's going on. You even have official publications telling you whose willy gets waved first, etc.

As for my education, I see a lot of attempts to try to foist this type of social facade upon me and others by many of the ex-pats who've joined my soaring club, and now I know a lot more about where it comes from. Interestingly enough, they still haven't given up the fight, even though their attempts at "civility" hasn't made any impact on the "oinks" that form the vast majority of the club. They just stay on and make the rest of us miserable with all their preening and posturing and attempts to establish a social pecking order. I suppose we could come up with some some club rules to weed them out, but we're not like that here.

Oh, and as ghastly as it sounds, I've been UK soaring clubs and after everything has been put away, I've been served a beer, in a bottle no less, ye gads! I guess oinkism is overtaking the mother country as well. Keep fighting the good fight, chaps! Meanwhile, I'll have a beer when I want a beer, etc.

As to 'ogling' the opposite sex, there is a world of difference between finding a member of the opposite sex attractive/personable and stepping over the line. The phrase; 'you can window shop but not buy' probably sums it up.
"Ogle" has a pretty precise definition (here) and I chose it because it fits the "look but don't touch" maxim, as opposed to "pulling" which does not.

Other folks comments here about having their way with the Col's daughter go a lot, lot further than what I said.

As for your complaint that MM left his wife at home with sick child whilst he went 'on the pull', is unworthy of you and you should retract.
In re-reading things, my intent did go astray. I incorrectly followed your comment about the purpose of the event, which was wrong. I'm sure it wasn't MM's intent for that to happen, I just found it curious after all the discussion of the protocols and the niceties, one outcome of the event (and the one attracting the most attention here) was in essence what I described.
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Old 30th Dec 2010, 18:28
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Rather severe thread drift, but a follow on from some of the Cyprus mentions in this thread:
http://www.channel24.co.za/News/Inte...-film-20101228
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Old 30th Dec 2010, 20:21
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EV,

Your comments above are both interesting and intriguing.

If you believe that the ex-pats to whom you refer, are of the type with whom you do not wish to associate and who make your members unhappy, then I suggest there are many remedies, depending on your position within the gliding and soaring community where you are resident.

First, if these dreadful people provide the money that keeps the club afloat, I’m afraid it’s hard cheese and you’ll have to tolerate their boorish company. The alternative of disconnecting the control cables seems rather excessive, given the sanctions you might (unreasonably) be forced to accept – like 15 years in the slammer!

Second, the people you decry are probably more amenable than most to compromise, if they are aware that their conduct is contrary to the social mores and behaviour that your club members wish. So why not approach them – reference to PPRuNe will stand you in good sted!!

Third, messes within the services have codes of conduct, does your club? and if not, propose to your committee some sensible rules. However, if a group of friends prefer to stand at one end of the Bar and enjoy each others’ company, that’s probably the par for many other clubs. The main membership of this site are ex-service but are your troublesome ex-pats ex-service? If not it is rather difficult to ascribe a link between their behaviour and what you are reading in this Thread.

Tell those who offend your sensibilities that they are no longer welcome, refund their unexpired subs and invite them to remove their sailplanes forthwith.

The important thing is that this Thread is a light hearted subject and many of the comments are made tongue in cheek. In all the important/serious aspects discussed in this Thread, it is how to make ones’ guests ‘at home’ when ‘at home’ to ones’ guests, comfortable.

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Old 30th Dec 2010, 20:37
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The important thing is that this Thread is a light hearted subject and many of the comments are made tongue in cheek.
EV Please don't take this thread too seriously,

I've only made a few posts but all I'd add to OD's post is to say that not 'many', but the vast majority of the posts, are 'tongue in cheek'
As the 'yoofs' - with whom I deal on a regular basis in my work say - 'lighten up'
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 19:36
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Did we sort out a date for the return match?

How many ppruners should be invited to add weight and balance?
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 21:35
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Langley,

Post 586 not understood.

Who is OldMetMan and what makes you think he's killing off this Thread?

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Old 3rd Jan 2011, 16:15
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I am old Metman and I thort I had killed fred.
Just another [email protected] forecast really - we're all licking our lips looking forward to advising and helping to plan the return match !
Where are you MM ?
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