SDSR - Redundancy Package?
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SDSR - Redundancy Package?
Changes of this magnitude cannot be managed through normal manning regulators - a redundancy package will be offered for Service personnel
I think there may be a lot more than 5000 personnel applying for the package and voting with their feet.
Our best resources are our people - if they all walk from key areas then it doesn't matter what aircraft we have if we can't fly or maintain them
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Couldn't agree more - if anyone thinks these cuts (sorry, review) are the end, wait until withdrawal from Herrick. These will seem like paper cuts compared to the hatchet job then.
Mr Cameron - "This is a not a cost saving exercise – it is about taking the right decisions to protect our national security in the times ahead." Oh really?
"The MOD will face significant challenges in the year ahead. " Nicht scheisse, Sherlock!
"We will double our investment in aid for unstable countries" That's good - we don't have money for adequate defence, policing (just wait for that news), the NHS but we do have money to prop up extremely dodgy regimes.
I'm so glad I don't have long to go - probably......
Mr Cameron - "This is a not a cost saving exercise – it is about taking the right decisions to protect our national security in the times ahead." Oh really?
"The MOD will face significant challenges in the year ahead. " Nicht scheisse, Sherlock!
"We will double our investment in aid for unstable countries" That's good - we don't have money for adequate defence, policing (just wait for that news), the NHS but we do have money to prop up extremely dodgy regimes.
I'm so glad I don't have long to go - probably......
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We were briefed that circa 2500 would be from 'natural wastage', the remainder through redundancy.
I hear 5AC will receive a visitation in the not to distant future, the rest of us are battening down the hatches and pretending not to notice.
I hear 5AC will receive a visitation in the not to distant future, the rest of us are battening down the hatches and pretending not to notice.
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Have just checked MOD site - last package 3 years ago said 18 months pay based on rank (not flying pay) if you have 5 or more years left to an exit date, assuming 13 years completed since age 18. 15 months pay with 4 years left, 11 months for 3 years, 7 for 2, 3 for 1. Also says they were agreeing changes to the redundancy package post April 2010 so should be less than this, given lack of cash about! Feeling a bit punch-drunk so far!
Assuming 12 years served, officers to get immediate pension even if not reached their IPP.
BA are recruiting!!!
Assuming 12 years served, officers to get immediate pension even if not reached their IPP. BA are recruiting!!!
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The Armed Forces redundancy package has been changed by the government very recently (coincidence? 
). It is now around 9 months pay, or if fully pensionable 6 months pay. I will look for the link.
). It is now around 9 months pay, or if fully pensionable 6 months pay. I will look for the link.
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From what I read it appears that AFPS 05 people will be covered by Armed Forces Redundancy Scheme 06 (I think 12 mnths pay) and those on APFPS 2010 will be covered by AFRS 2010 (9 months pay before Mar 2013 then 3 months).... different terms before IPP. Both AFRS available on tinterweb via google
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Not sure it was the Armed Forces Redundancy package that was changed. Statutory Redundancy terms were changed as labour left the house, however terms agreed under the acceptance of AFCS06 have not yet been changed i.e. 12 months pay if 4yrs left, 9 mnths for 3yrs, 6 for 2 etc. I don't think terms of service can be changed just like that without a fight.
Don't think much for those wishing to join up in the future or those accepting a change of TOS due to promotion etc. I suspect any new pension and compensation terms will be very poor. I had also heard that Sqn Ldrs aren't being offered service to 55 now as a matter of course on promotion...
Don't think much for those wishing to join up in the future or those accepting a change of TOS due to promotion etc. I suspect any new pension and compensation terms will be very poor. I had also heard that Sqn Ldrs aren't being offered service to 55 now as a matter of course on promotion...
It's all in here The Armed Forces (Redundancy, Resettlement and Gratuity Earnings Schemes) Order 2010
From what I can see for those with more than 3 years to serve and after an immediate pension point it is as follows:
AFPS75: tax free 6 months pay plus tax free gratuity and then normal pension.
AFPS05: tax free 9 months pay plus tax free gratuity and then normal pension.
Watch out though, all changes to 3 months pay on 1 Apr 2013!
LJ
From what I can see for those with more than 3 years to serve and after an immediate pension point it is as follows:
AFPS75: tax free 6 months pay plus tax free gratuity and then normal pension.
AFPS05: tax free 9 months pay plus tax free gratuity and then normal pension.
Watch out though, all changes to 3 months pay on 1 Apr 2013!
LJ
Desk officers will be focussing on the Sick, Lame, Lazy and Incompetent
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We always are.... fortunately we do rather well in the pool! 
(I won't mention the C'wealth games medal count in the interests of decorum either...)
Slots would be limited in the RAAF, we can't take everyone but they have some good kit right now and more coming. Summer is just around the corner as well. You could be on the winning side of the next Ashes series!!
Whilst China still needs our coal and iron-ore, there is no sign of a recession here. Just FYI.
Anyone need the address of Australia House??
(I won't mention the C'wealth games medal count in the interests of decorum either...)Slots would be limited in the RAAF, we can't take everyone but they have some good kit right now and more coming. Summer is just around the corner as well. You could be on the winning side of the next Ashes series!!
Whilst China still needs our coal and iron-ore, there is no sign of a recession here. Just FYI.
Anyone need the address of Australia House??
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Sick Lame And Lazy
SLC - I love your approach to this - i happen to be a highly competent individual who would not consider myself "sick lame and lazy" but i am now the proud owner of some highclass metal work in my ankle. Thus, i will be in the next few months downgraded ( and who knows even got rid of) at Henlow. It certainly is not my preferred route of exit from an RAF that has done a lot for me and even promoted me on numerous occasions!
Before you proffer your thoughts next time, stop and think about what you are saying. It might all be green on your lawn, but there are many people who owing to circumstances beyond their control are poorly. Would you class friends of mine as sick lame and lazy who have lost legs or body parts in the Gulf or Afghanistan?
well and truly on the hook tonight!
Before you proffer your thoughts next time, stop and think about what you are saying. It might all be green on your lawn, but there are many people who owing to circumstances beyond their control are poorly. Would you class friends of mine as sick lame and lazy who have lost legs or body parts in the Gulf or Afghanistan?
well and truly on the hook tonight!
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occhips,
I don't think at all that SLC was referring to you or those others like you who have worked hard and been broken as a result. I suspect he was referring to those who are "on the sick" ie those who fabriacte or exaggerate, but I'm sure he'll confirm?
I don't think at all that SLC was referring to you or those others like you who have worked hard and been broken as a result. I suspect he was referring to those who are "on the sick" ie those who fabriacte or exaggerate, but I'm sure he'll confirm?
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I agree that SLC was purely talking about those that are swinging the lead. My neighbour at a secret base in Oxfordshire was supposed to go OOA to MPA of all places and couldn't as she had had such an awful pregnancy with her now 3 yr old daughter. Believe it was her hips that she suddenly needed physio for, after receiving her paperwork to go. OOA deferred and subsequently has had bambino number 2. Now call it coincidence but if You ask me then she and others like it are the ones that should initially make up some of the 5000 to go!!
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I agree that SLC was purely talking about those that are swinging the lead. My neighbour at a secret base in Oxfordshire was supposed to go OOA to MPA of all places and couldn't as she had had such an awful pregnancy with her now 3 yr old daughter. Believe it was her hips that she suddenly needed physio for, after receiving her paperwork to go. OOA deferred and subsequently has had bambino number 2. Now call it coincidence but if You ask me then she and others like it are the ones that should initially make up some of the 5000 to go!!
She'd then get an even bigger pay off.
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Well, according to the DIN on the subject the redundancy scheme will be running in 2014 to release folks in 2015. Ties in nicely with the Redundancy Scheme changing in 2013 reducing payments to 3 months pay. W**kers. 