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Old 2nd May 2017, 16:22
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I am sure it will be interesting to see this,if it is appropriate, once the F35 is cleared for more aggressive flight profiles.
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To be frank PhilipG, for the "Loop", that's about as aggressive you can get. I've probably flown it at least 100 times in 4 different aircraft types and, for non-native-to-UK pilots, some are clearly enjoying themselves and quote comfortable with both aircraft and low level flying in the UKLFS. This is the last place you need to pull 9Gz at low level - if it is, you've porked the racing line and your judgement sucks.

Sorry but unless I've misinterpreted, your comment comes across as quite amateur to a seasoned operator. This because the jet is now cleared for the full profile and these pilots are clearly flying with due regard to the terrain not the load limit of the aircraft.
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IF this graphic is correct then F-35As have 2 Gs to go from 7-9 as they are 3i jets at moment. However the flat deck landers are 'not quite' their full G capacity with 2B at 5.5 G for USMC and USN yet to reach IOC but at 7.5 G - if they are built for it. (see grey shaded area with order of Gs F-35A, B & C. http://i.imgur.com/a5QL39F.jpg

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Air Force to Release F-35 Weight Restrictions > U.S. Air Force > Article Display
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Less than 136 lbs?

I wish!
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So you weigh more than 245 pounds or is that what you are worth - less than 103 pounds? Pick one.
"...The requirement is for the seat to be certified for any pilot weighing between 103 and 245 pounds...."

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Exclusive: F-35 Fighter PEO Bogdan's Full Exit Interview 25 May 2017


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Germany requested classified data from the U.S. military on the F-35 fighter jet

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Old 27th May 2017, 10:57
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As the orders for FA/E-18s stack up, the required number of USN F-35Cs goes down.....

Super Hornets see boost in new US budget request

"President Donald Trump’s proposed budget would add funding to buy up to 74 Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornets through 2022, or 60 more than planned in previous budget forecasts.

The Navy is requesting 14 Super Hornets in Fiscal 2018 to mitigate the service’s strike fighter shortfall, officials said this week. In addition, Trump’s budget proposal inserts new plans to procure 23 more F/A-18E/Fs in FY2019, 14 in FY2020, 14 in FY2021 and 15 in FY2022. The recent request not only includes funding for new Super Hornets, but also advanced procurement dollars to address advanced capabilities."......

Boeing to Integrate Infrared Search, Tracking System in F-18 Combat Jets

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — US aerospace giant Boeing won $89 million to build a new Infrared Search and Track System into the Navy's F/A-18 Super Hornet aircraft, the Defense Department said in a press release.

"The Boeing Co., St. Louis, Missouri, is being awarded an $89,000,000 contract for incorporation of the Block II Infrared Search and Track System (IRST) in the F/A-18 E/F aircraft," the release explained Thursday. "The contract includes the initial design and development, procurement of prototyping hardware, technical risk reduction efforts, integrated product support, and technical reviews of IRST Block II with the F/A-18E/F aircraft."....
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Old 30th May 2017, 19:34
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Unit Cost of F-35s Delivered This Year Still Exceeds $206M

PARIS --- The average unit cost of Lockheed Martin F-35 fighters in the ninth Low-Rate Initial Production Lot 9 (LRIP 9) is $206.3 million, according to our analysis of all 46 contracts that have been made public for Lot 9. This is just $16.7 million (or 7%) lower than the average cost of the Lot 5 aircraft ordered in 2012 – fully five years ago.

Separately, a direct comparison of Lot 5 and Lot 9 aircraft costs released by the F-35 Joint Program Office (JPO) shows that the cost of a “generic” F-35 has actually increased by $7.63 million over the same five years, 2012 to 2017. The “generic” F-35 is a notional aircraft used to compare unit costs from year to year; it is the average cost of one aircraft of each of the three versions (F-35A CTOL, F-35B STOVL and F-35C CV) in the same production lot.

JPO’s figures show that, of the three variants, only the F-35A saw its cost decline, by a modest $3 million over those five years. The cost of both other variants increased substantially (see Table 2). JPO only compares airframe costs, and for reasons it has not explained excludes engine and other costs. Both our detailed analysis of Lot 9 contracts, and the JPO’s own figures, contradict many public statements by Lockheed Martin and the F-35 Joint Program Office (JPO) claiming that unit costs are dropping with each successive LRIP lot, and that by 2019 the unit cost of an F-35A will have dropped to $85 million.

Most recently, JPO Director Lt. Gen Christopher Bogdan was quoted at a Dec. 19 press conference as again promising lower prices. “By the time the plane enters Full Rate Production in 2019, .... the price will be down to $80-$85 million for an F-35A, $110 million for a F-35B, and a $96 million for an F-35C.” This now looks more implausible than ever.

As things stand, Lot 9 aircraft being delivered today cost $206.6 million on average, including their engines, fixes, retrofits and upgrades, Furthermore, the JPO continues to award contracts for Lot 9, so it is likely the unit cost of Lot 9 aircraft will continue to grow. Four Lot 9 contracts have been awarded so far this year.

What all this shows is that neither Lockheed Martin nor the Joint Program Office have a real handle on their public statements about aircraft unit costs, which cannot be independently substantiated........... [more]
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Quite a convincing piece given the references and the links to all the contracts.

I wonder who gains the most from the deliberate deception regarding true cost?
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F-35A Lightning ll Demo!! Practice for the 2017 Paris Airshow!! TXAVGEEK Published on Jun 2, 2017
"F-35A "AF-78" (13-5072) from the 388FW, Hill AFB, Utah performing a low show aerial demonstration practice for the 2017 Paris Airshow at NAS Fort Worth JRB!" [Flown by LM F-35A Test Pilot]
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Originally Posted by Just This Once...
Quite a convincing piece given the references and the links to all the contracts.

I wonder who gains the most from the deliberate deception regarding true cost?

The owner of the website, defense-aerospace.com: the professional website for aerospace, defense and military news and information who works for the one of the Eurofighter manufacturers.

The article is bull****.
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Old 6th Jun 2017, 21:49
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So you say.
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