F-35 Cancelled, then what ?
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Very much an Onion type sarcastic piece. But,
So true.... 
Duffel Blog: Air Force, Marines Cancel F-35 Joint Strike Fighter
You know that Duffleblog is a satirical news site right? This said though, they often sail very close to the truth...
Duffel Blog: Air Force, Marines Cancel F-35 Joint Strike Fighter
By Pious Pilot:
"The Navy should have bought the latest F-18 varient and a carrier with 'cats and traps', then palmed the F-18s off to the RAF once JSF is serviceable and ready to buy with capability, say 10 years from now.
The future of strike is going to be UAV based, catapults and arrestor gear will be a necessity not an option. Not to mention all the other fixed winged assets that could use a proper carrier.
Short sighted muppets pulling the strings."
The RN and French Navy should probably have both bought the F18 and the French could then have joined a land centric Eurofighter programme.
All academic now.
"The Navy should have bought the latest F-18 varient and a carrier with 'cats and traps', then palmed the F-18s off to the RAF once JSF is serviceable and ready to buy with capability, say 10 years from now.
The future of strike is going to be UAV based, catapults and arrestor gear will be a necessity not an option. Not to mention all the other fixed winged assets that could use a proper carrier.
Short sighted muppets pulling the strings."
The RN and French Navy should probably have both bought the F18 and the French could then have joined a land centric Eurofighter programme.
All academic now.
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The future of strike is going to be UAV based,
No I don't think strike is going unmanned any time soon....
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First UK weapon dropped - PWIV
First UK weapon dropped - PWIV
2 inert Paveways IV dropped from a "B" flying from Patuxent River with a UK pilot.
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F-35 Unscathed by Hostile Fire in Green Flag, says Aviation Week.
Not a single F-35 was “shot down” during the joint-force Green Flag exercises testing the jet and its pilots’ prowess operating it in a contested air-support role in the Western U.S. this month, according to U.S. Air Force Lt. Col. Cameron Dadgar, head of the exercise and leader of the 549th Combat Training Sqdn. at Nellis AFB, Nevada. This is notable because A-10s and F-16s were defeated in the same conditions, operating in an environment with hostile aircraft, just another rumour to mull over.
Not a single F-35 was “shot down” during the joint-force Green Flag exercises testing the jet and its pilots’ prowess operating it in a contested air-support role in the Western U.S. this month, according to U.S. Air Force Lt. Col. Cameron Dadgar, head of the exercise and leader of the 549th Combat Training Sqdn. at Nellis AFB, Nevada. This is notable because A-10s and F-16s were defeated in the same conditions, operating in an environment with hostile aircraft, just another rumour to mull over.
F-35 Unscathed by Hostile Fire in Green Flag, says Aviation Week.
Not a single F-35 was “shot down” during the joint-force Green Flag exercises testing the jet and its pilots’ prowess operating it in a contested air-support role in the Western U.S. this month, according to U.S. Air Force Lt. Col. Cameron Dadgar, head of the exercise and leader of the 549th Combat Training Sqdn. at Nellis AFB, Nevada. This is notable because A-10s and F-16s were defeated in the same conditions, operating in an environment with hostile aircraft, just another rumour to mull over.
Not a single F-35 was “shot down” during the joint-force Green Flag exercises testing the jet and its pilots’ prowess operating it in a contested air-support role in the Western U.S. this month, according to U.S. Air Force Lt. Col. Cameron Dadgar, head of the exercise and leader of the 549th Combat Training Sqdn. at Nellis AFB, Nevada. This is notable because A-10s and F-16s were defeated in the same conditions, operating in an environment with hostile aircraft, just another rumour to mull over.
The outcome is hardly surprising since A-10s don't even have a missile warning system, and were never intended to engage fighters, and USAF F-16s have rather primitive MWS and RWR and no active EW. There is no mention of whether F-15 or Growler cover was provided. If not, the jets were sitting ducks in a scenario that only a lunatic would plan.
Nonetheless this exercise was set up and given unusual publicity at a point where, by total coincidence, the USAF is trying to ditch the A-10 and use its people to support F-35.
No shenanigans here, I'm sure.
Nonetheless this exercise was set up and given unusual publicity at a point where, by total coincidence, the USAF is trying to ditch the A-10 and use its people to support F-35.
No shenanigans here, I'm sure.
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So, whilst shenanigans may have been in progress, your point is that neither A-10 nor F-16 can operate in a contested environment and require OCA and SEAD, or things get a little unfair..whilst F-35 doesn't?
It would depend on the threat, but clearly there are wide range of RF-guided systems that would be dangerous against a USAF F-16 or A-10. Fighters with better self-protection would be different.
Also, different ground situations and weather would affect the F-35's ability to avoid ground fire. Static or slow targets and clear skies, plus RoEs that allow high-altitude releases with the rather dated midwave-only EOTS.
Also, different ground situations and weather would affect the F-35's ability to avoid ground fire. Static or slow targets and clear skies, plus RoEs that allow high-altitude releases with the rather dated midwave-only EOTS.
Nice emoticons, MSOCS, but are we now celebrating as a grand success the fact that there are some scenarios where F-35s survive and 40-plus year old designs do not?
It would have been a little catastrophic were that not the case.
I would hold the triumphant notes until I knew what the threat was, RoEs &c. Was it 2020s or basic Cold War surplus - MiG-29S/Su-27, Buk-2M &c? Absolutely crucial factors.
It would have been a little catastrophic were that not the case.
I would hold the triumphant notes until I knew what the threat was, RoEs &c. Was it 2020s or basic Cold War surplus - MiG-29S/Su-27, Buk-2M &c? Absolutely crucial factors.
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Just thought I'd mention, given the relatively recent conversation about the lack of F-35B ski jumps, that the first F-35B ski jumps took place on 19th June. Link here:
https://vimeo.com/lmaeronautics/revi...135/07c088ad82
Best Regards as ever to those doing the test stuff:
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https://vimeo.com/lmaeronautics/revi...135/07c088ad82
Best Regards as ever to those doing the test stuff:
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