F-35 Cancelled, then what ?
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Someone just stepped on his own Woody Johnson...
Less NHS, more F-35s. Holy ****, dude.
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Less NHS, more F-35s. Holy ****, dude.
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Someone just stepped on his own Woody Johnson...
Less NHS, more F-35s. Holy ****, dude.
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Less NHS, more F-35s. Holy ****, dude.
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"Mr Johnson also described the F-35 Lightning programme, which Britain has a 25 per cent stake in, as "very, very interesting".
That is correct.
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Less NHS, more F-35s. Holy ****, dude.
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Less NHS, more F-35s. Holy ****, dude.
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Not sure that that is what he said.
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As others have noted, it depends on how you define 'contested', but I can attest to the KC-46 being designed to be able to withstand some battle damage. For example, those wire separation requirements that tripped up Boeing so badly were related to ballistic penetration - holes of a certain diameter were not allowed to take out redundant systems.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M...le_Impact.webm
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The soviets nee Russians have a demonstrated ability to take out Boeings...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M...le_Impact.webm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M...le_Impact.webm
Thought the Russians disputed responsibility for that one....
Usual caveats apply :
"The F-35 just made its combat debut"
https://www.defensenews.com/breaking...1Dy1gI.twitter
"The F-35 just made its combat debut"
https://www.defensenews.com/breaking...1Dy1gI.twitter
25%. Are you sure. Seems high given we are told that UK aerospace industry gets 15% of each sale. Not sure if this applies to F35 with the LiftFan or is a generic figure.
Buster15,
Seeing as in addition to the manufacturing bit we have a large number of design folk on the project spread around airframe, engine and systems, 25% overall seems a about right.
Seeing as in addition to the manufacturing bit we have a large number of design folk on the project spread around airframe, engine and systems, 25% overall seems a about right.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
https://www.stripes.com/news/us/navy...tance-1.528359
HASC: F-35C lacks the range to strike enemy targets
WASHINGTON (Tribune News Service) — The Navy’s newest fighter jet, the stealthy F-35C, may not have the range it needs to strike enemy targets, the House Armed Services Committee said in a new report, raising troubling questions about whether the multibillion-dollar program is already outpaced by threats. And critics say the Navy fighter — part of the Joint Strike Fighter initiative, the most expensive weapons program in history — may actually have been out of date years ago.
The committee’s conclusion, buried in the 606-page report on the fiscal 2019 defense authorization bill, is confirmation from lawmakers who support the jet program that the aircraft carrier-based version of the F-35 may not have enough effective range without refueling to function well in likely future wars. “While the introduction of the F-35C will significantly expand stealth capabilities, the F-35C could require increased range to address necessary targets,” the report states.
The reason, experts say, is that the aircraft carriers from which the F-35Cs would operate may be required to sail too far away from enemies to avoid their increasingly long-range missiles.
The committee does not want to stop buying F-35Cs, but instead wants to start also buying new sorts of warplanes. “After billions of dollars have been spent on the F-35C, but before the first aircraft are ready to deploy, lawmakers are already looking at the next carrier-based aircraft,” said Bryan Clark, a former Navy strategist now at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments.
Dan Grazier, of the Project on Government Oversight, said the House directive “highlights just how poorly conceived the Joint Strike Fighter program has been from the very beginning.” “The issue of anti-ship cruise missiles is not a new one,” he said. “The complexity of the F-35 program has dragged out the design process to nearly 20 years, which means we are not keeping pace with emerging threats.”.......
The fact that the F-35C’s limited radius may reduce its operational utility has received little public attention. Radius is less of an issue for the Air Force because the service has long-range bombers and can reserve F-35As for shorter-range missions, Clark said. For the Marine Corps, the F-35B is a significant upgrade over the AV-8B Harriers now in the fleet.
The committee’s report directs the Navy secretary to brief the Armed Services panels by January 2019 on options, including manned and unmanned aircraft that would “expand the strike range of a carrier air wing in a contested environment.” That could include “developing a stealth tanker capability, improved engine technology or to develop and procure a strike capability that is purposely built to strike at increased range.”........
HASC: F-35C lacks the range to strike enemy targets
WASHINGTON (Tribune News Service) — The Navy’s newest fighter jet, the stealthy F-35C, may not have the range it needs to strike enemy targets, the House Armed Services Committee said in a new report, raising troubling questions about whether the multibillion-dollar program is already outpaced by threats. And critics say the Navy fighter — part of the Joint Strike Fighter initiative, the most expensive weapons program in history — may actually have been out of date years ago.
The committee’s conclusion, buried in the 606-page report on the fiscal 2019 defense authorization bill, is confirmation from lawmakers who support the jet program that the aircraft carrier-based version of the F-35 may not have enough effective range without refueling to function well in likely future wars. “While the introduction of the F-35C will significantly expand stealth capabilities, the F-35C could require increased range to address necessary targets,” the report states.
The reason, experts say, is that the aircraft carriers from which the F-35Cs would operate may be required to sail too far away from enemies to avoid their increasingly long-range missiles.
The committee does not want to stop buying F-35Cs, but instead wants to start also buying new sorts of warplanes. “After billions of dollars have been spent on the F-35C, but before the first aircraft are ready to deploy, lawmakers are already looking at the next carrier-based aircraft,” said Bryan Clark, a former Navy strategist now at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments.
Dan Grazier, of the Project on Government Oversight, said the House directive “highlights just how poorly conceived the Joint Strike Fighter program has been from the very beginning.” “The issue of anti-ship cruise missiles is not a new one,” he said. “The complexity of the F-35 program has dragged out the design process to nearly 20 years, which means we are not keeping pace with emerging threats.”.......
The fact that the F-35C’s limited radius may reduce its operational utility has received little public attention. Radius is less of an issue for the Air Force because the service has long-range bombers and can reserve F-35As for shorter-range missions, Clark said. For the Marine Corps, the F-35B is a significant upgrade over the AV-8B Harriers now in the fleet.
The committee’s report directs the Navy secretary to brief the Armed Services panels by January 2019 on options, including manned and unmanned aircraft that would “expand the strike range of a carrier air wing in a contested environment.” That could include “developing a stealth tanker capability, improved engine technology or to develop and procure a strike capability that is purposely built to strike at increased range.”........
People's opinion of the F-35 notwithstanding, this is some nice footage of a Dutch F-35A wazzing about, I mean it even banks as if to turn! 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW9_e-Uxo9g&feature=share
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW9_e-Uxo9g&feature=share
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A stealth fighter in reheat now that makes sense.....
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may not have enough effective range without refueling to function well in likely future wars.
