F-35 Cancelled, then what ?
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But we agree, don't we, that legacy fighters cannot exist in the threat environment currently fielded. So I assume all F-35 knockers are also content that manned aircraft are no longer viable on the high end battlefield?
As drones haven't made anywhere near the impact they were supposed to - it seems they've done the straight forward long persistence stuff but not anything requiring high performance or high end weaponry, one assumes that the SAM has won full stop.
Not to worry. AT and ISTAR should keep us busy enough. Potentially SH as well but the cushion layer is certainly getting more fruity as time goes by.
As drones haven't made anywhere near the impact they were supposed to - it seems they've done the straight forward long persistence stuff but not anything requiring high performance or high end weaponry, one assumes that the SAM has won full stop.
Not to worry. AT and ISTAR should keep us busy enough. Potentially SH as well but the cushion layer is certainly getting more fruity as time goes by.
Then what? Buy Indian, obviously! Just hope it has better build quality than a Royal Enfield!
Skijump and traps is all that is required and BAESYSTEMS already have a deal with HAL who make the LCA Tejas as seen in the video.
Simples...
LJ
Skijump and traps is all that is required and BAESYSTEMS already have a deal with HAL who make the LCA Tejas as seen in the video.
Simples...
LJ
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Would be interested to see:
1 - What the "deck run" was for the Tejas in the video.
2 - What its AUW was.
If it can launch with a representative weapons load from a non-catapulted 450ft deck run, then it's "impressive".
1 - What the "deck run" was for the Tejas in the video.
2 - What its AUW was.
If it can launch with a representative weapons load from a non-catapulted 450ft deck run, then it's "impressive".
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MSOCS,
You obviously haven't read the ROE. This aircraft is not F-35 so is therefore to be applauded for every advance it makes no matter how incremental and however many questions it creates. The two you cite aren't a bad starter...how does it stop might be another. (Hooks and wires are apparently dead easy to design, operate, catch and maintain so maybe not).
Nonetheless - great to see another nation serious about the sea base and all it brings. Better still to see a FRS MK51 (stand by to be corrected) sneak in!
You obviously haven't read the ROE. This aircraft is not F-35 so is therefore to be applauded for every advance it makes no matter how incremental and however many questions it creates. The two you cite aren't a bad starter...how does it stop might be another. (Hooks and wires are apparently dead easy to design, operate, catch and maintain so maybe not).
Nonetheless - great to see another nation serious about the sea base and all it brings. Better still to see a FRS MK51 (stand by to be corrected) sneak in!
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I'd assumed that they'd completely nailed the stopping game.
That landing gear doesn't look very suitable for the job though.....but then who am I to dare make a comment on such things.
I guess I'll have to just stick to my comfy armchair, slippers, and opinions founded on media trawling and, "how flying was in my day"
God forbid I ever actually retire....
That landing gear doesn't look very suitable for the job though.....but then who am I to dare make a comment on such things.
I guess I'll have to just stick to my comfy armchair, slippers, and opinions founded on media trawling and, "how flying was in my day"
God forbid I ever actually retire....
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Orca - But we agree, don't we, that legacy fighters cannot exist in the threat environment currently fielded.
As the old joke has it, "What's with the 'we'
, paleface?"
If you say that "fighters with rather creaky analog RWR and, at best, wheezy non-DRFM podded jammers are vulnerable to the current environment", I'm with you.
USAF F-16s are pretty much the GL model compared to most post-1995 exports, let alone a Sufa or the Singapore jets, and don't compare at all with non-U.S. competitors.
Typerated - The Boeing/Saab T-X is a new airplane. My personal opinion is that the JAS 39E/F would be an excellent fit for Guard and Reserve, which will otherwise see their numbers plummet because of F-35's CPFH; the expensive stealth-related stuff is not required for many missions. They'd also be excellent Aggressors against F-35s/F-22s. But it's not going to happen because nobody wants to see Guard/Reserve guys (age and treachery will prevail over youth and prowess) doing velociraptor tricks to the Academy kids in the stealth jets.
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Orca - But we agree, don't we, that legacy fighters cannot exist in the threat environment currently fielded.
As the old joke has it, "What's with the 'we'
, paleface?"If you say that "fighters with rather creaky analog RWR and, at best, wheezy non-DRFM podded jammers are vulnerable to the current environment", I'm with you.
USAF F-16s are pretty much the GL model compared to most post-1995 exports, let alone a Sufa or the Singapore jets, and don't compare at all with non-U.S. competitors.
Typerated - The Boeing/Saab T-X is a new airplane. My personal opinion is that the JAS 39E/F would be an excellent fit for Guard and Reserve, which will otherwise see their numbers plummet because of F-35's CPFH; the expensive stealth-related stuff is not required for many missions. They'd also be excellent Aggressors against F-35s/F-22s. But it's not going to happen because nobody wants to see Guard/Reserve guys (age and treachery will prevail over youth and prowess) doing velociraptor tricks to the Academy kids in the stealth jets.
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As drones haven't made anywhere near the impact they were supposed to
As to what UAVs in general have done in the past 10 years ... I can't agree with your assessment, unless "supposed to" means something particular in this case.
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I was referring to the indigenous nature of the project as being impressive as was commented on later in the the tread.
I can't comment on the veracity of anything reported here but it might be of interest to some.
"A test pilot has some very, very bad news about the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. The pricey new stealth jet can’t turn or climb fast enough to hit an enemy plane during a dogfight or to dodge the enemy’s own gunfire, the pilot reported following a day of mock air battles back in January."
More here: https://medium.com/war-is-boring/tes...eid=bbff1c7303
"A test pilot has some very, very bad news about the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. The pricey new stealth jet can’t turn or climb fast enough to hit an enemy plane during a dogfight or to dodge the enemy’s own gunfire, the pilot reported following a day of mock air battles back in January."
More here: https://medium.com/war-is-boring/tes...eid=bbff1c7303
Now a matter of authenticating the original document...
But this is the proverbial other shoe from this story...
F-35 Tested Against F-16 In Basic Fighter Maneuvers | Defense content from Aviation Week
...which left everyone wondering who came off best in those encounters.
But this is the proverbial other shoe from this story...
F-35 Tested Against F-16 In Basic Fighter Maneuvers | Defense content from Aviation Week
...which left everyone wondering who came off best in those encounters.
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The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter has been flown in air-to-air combat maneuvers against F-16s for the first time and, based on the results of these and earlier flight-envelope evaluations, test pilots say the aircraft can be cleared for greater agility as a growth option.
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