Flying Complaints
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Flying Complaints
Please make them stop!
Ministry of Defence | About Defence | What we do | Air Safety and Aviation | Low Flying | Low Flying Today
1. Yes we can low fly at 0330 in the morning.
2. We are not using your house as a waypoint or a 'target' unless you happen to live in the playboy mansion or a white house on top of a hill.
3. If you do have a horse(congratulations why do i care?) we cannot see you unless you wear day glo.
4. Please threaten to shot at one of our aircraft again just give me a second to record the call 'not only do I not mind because much meaner people than you have done it before with much bigger guns, but I PMSL when the police come round to tell us how scared you look when they knock on your door'.
5. 500' is not low flying in a helicopter.
6. Your mate who is a pilot who tells you stuff is an idiot.
7. see point 6, just because he can't fly within 500' of a building doesn't mean we can't.
8. If you live on the boundary of an airfield telling me you can hear an aircraft isn't going to get you much sympathy its been here 60 years longer than you.
9. Thank you for phoning me to tell me who you are friends with in the House of Commons or MOD.
10. HM the queen doesn't have an avoid around her stud farm so you are unlikely to get one around your field with your long legged cow.
11. You do not have to phone the number on the website just because it is there.
Ministry of Defence | About Defence | What we do | Air Safety and Aviation | Low Flying | Low Flying Today
1. Yes we can low fly at 0330 in the morning.
2. We are not using your house as a waypoint or a 'target' unless you happen to live in the playboy mansion or a white house on top of a hill.
3. If you do have a horse(congratulations why do i care?) we cannot see you unless you wear day glo.
4. Please threaten to shot at one of our aircraft again just give me a second to record the call 'not only do I not mind because much meaner people than you have done it before with much bigger guns, but I PMSL when the police come round to tell us how scared you look when they knock on your door'.
5. 500' is not low flying in a helicopter.
6. Your mate who is a pilot who tells you stuff is an idiot.
7. see point 6, just because he can't fly within 500' of a building doesn't mean we can't.
8. If you live on the boundary of an airfield telling me you can hear an aircraft isn't going to get you much sympathy its been here 60 years longer than you.
9. Thank you for phoning me to tell me who you are friends with in the House of Commons or MOD.
10. HM the queen doesn't have an avoid around her stud farm so you are unlikely to get one around your field with your long legged cow.
11. You do not have to phone the number on the website just because it is there.
To which I might add one that I used on more than one occaision:
"The owner of the campsite did tell you that it was next to a busy military airfield when you made the booking?"
YS
"The owner of the campsite did tell you that it was next to a busy military airfield when you made the booking?"
YS
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to which you can add - other members of society regard it as a right to be overflown by something loud and pointy, preferably at naff all height and approching Vne.
We like their views more than yours.....
We like their views more than yours.....
To which you can add: other members of society positively enjoy the sights and sounds of military aviation close-up, deeply appreciate and value what military aviators do and encourage it.
"I wish to make a complaint about aircraft noise!"
"Does your complaint refer to noise where you live?"
"Yes!"
"If you wish to make an official complaint, I should perhaps advise you that you will be obliged to declare this material fact should you decide to sell your property in the future. This might perhaps have a negative effect on the potential sale; however, should you fail to disclose this fact to the potential buyer, then you could face legal action. Now, are you really sure that you wish to make an official complaint?"
"Err, perhaps not."
"Does your complaint refer to noise where you live?"
"Yes!"
"If you wish to make an official complaint, I should perhaps advise you that you will be obliged to declare this material fact should you decide to sell your property in the future. This might perhaps have a negative effect on the potential sale; however, should you fail to disclose this fact to the potential buyer, then you could face legal action. Now, are you really sure that you wish to make an official complaint?"
"Err, perhaps not."
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Received a call once about the Red Arrows disturbing her pedigree horse.
"Where exactly do you live?"
. . .
"Oh, I know it, your husband repaired my gates. Now . . . ?"
End of complaints as husband was on incapacity benefit
"Where exactly do you live?"
. . .
"Oh, I know it, your husband repaired my gates. Now . . . ?"
End of complaints as husband was on incapacity benefit
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Are you pointing out to a military flying-focused community that there is a set of procedures for dealing with low flying complaints? Or is there a hidden meaning I'm not getting?
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Didn't your solicitor reveal the existence of the airfield when doing the search prior to your purchase?
Seriously, it makes me hopping mad that someone can move next to an airfield, allegedly not knowing of its existence, then proceed to cause mayhem by constantly complaining. The purpose of the pre-purchase search is to reveal such things which the purchaser may consider undesireable. (I would regard it as an attraction.) There should be no comeback at all, after all, the vast majority of airfields have been in existence for more than 60 years and appear on maps.
Now for my complaint. As I have said before, you do not fly over my house. Kindly amend this.
Seriously, it makes me hopping mad that someone can move next to an airfield, allegedly not knowing of its existence, then proceed to cause mayhem by constantly complaining. The purpose of the pre-purchase search is to reveal such things which the purchaser may consider undesireable. (I would regard it as an attraction.) There should be no comeback at all, after all, the vast majority of airfields have been in existence for more than 60 years and appear on maps.
Now for my complaint. As I have said before, you do not fly over my house. Kindly amend this.
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ooh ooh ooh and mine too.
low flying - yes please. I'll award bonus points for a gratuitous beat up under the Tamar bridge - give me time to get there first mind.
500+ in full blower into Plymouth sound over the breakwater and pull up so you are vertical at Smeatons Tower
I'd pay good money to see that.
At the subsequent court martial tell em you were simulating a missile attack and testing HMS Daring
low flying - yes please. I'll award bonus points for a gratuitous beat up under the Tamar bridge - give me time to get there first mind.
500+ in full blower into Plymouth sound over the breakwater and pull up so you are vertical at Smeatons Tower
I'd pay good money to see that.
At the subsequent court martial tell em you were simulating a missile attack and testing HMS Daring
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Originally Posted by green granite
Since RAE Bedford closed we don't see any low stuff at all, it's not fair.
The airport manager at a certain civil airfield I have knowledge of simply wrote to the complainer and suggested they take it up with the estate agent who handled their house purchase.
But it's not only low flying that gets these imbecilic NIMBYs, there was one on the Fulham Football Club website about 2 years ago. A Fulham supporter living close to Craven Cottage answered a knock on his door one evening. A lady asked him to sign a petition to get the football club closed down due to its noise. He asked how long she had lived there - it transpired they'd viewed, bought and moved in during the closed season - and how much? They'd paid £1.25M and claimed they had been unaware of the existence of the football stadium (it's only been there since 1879 and it's hardly small enough not to see it).
But it's not only low flying that gets these imbecilic NIMBYs, there was one on the Fulham Football Club website about 2 years ago. A Fulham supporter living close to Craven Cottage answered a knock on his door one evening. A lady asked him to sign a petition to get the football club closed down due to its noise. He asked how long she had lived there - it transpired they'd viewed, bought and moved in during the closed season - and how much? They'd paid £1.25M and claimed they had been unaware of the existence of the football stadium (it's only been there since 1879 and it's hardly small enough not to see it).
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Don't mind the Wokkas one bit, even chuntering about at 01.30 as per t'other week. Any would-be complainers in the village who ask, get Middle Wallop's number.
There's Jointery for you.
There's Jointery for you.
I have but one complaint about low flying.
I don't see enough of it.
I don't see enough of it.
Not sure about your wheeze Cornish-Stormrider, the Royal Albert Bridge (opened 1859) is the only rail link into Cornwall, and Railtrack, or whatever they're called these days would just love an excuse to close it down to save on the maintenance. Some t**t flying into the supports would give them just the excuse they need!