OMG!! What next?
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Two's in.
Did you actually watch Alf Garnett, as I am not sure you understand the message
from the show.
Maybe I am not getting your point, but as far as the show was concerned, the
joke was at Alf for being an idiot, and not at the expense of any black people.
It was not saying whites are superior or that blacks are inferior, but rather that
Alf was out of touch and he was in the wrong.
I have just remembered something, which I found very funny
(but may upset some posters).
While on one of the Bold 'something' exercises in Germany, one of my best mates
(I am too scared to say he was of Asian origin, as this will be seen as validation by some), who was a fellow Bristolian, but had parents from India, used to dress up
as a punka wholla, by wearing old sheets, every time visiting officers would come
by the squadron location. My troop commander would say that we did not know
his name, but that he just followed us all over the world to serve tea (at this point, please note that this was my mates idea to do this, amongst many other bizarre
stunts).
To me this whole episode was massively funny, because the visitors believed the
story every time......And for no other reason
.
Just to balance this up a bit. While staying at another camp in the South of
England, this same mate had been out for a few drinks late one night, and decided
he could not walk back to camp. With his beer goggles on he saw an approaching
taxi, and jumped out in front of it, saying 'oi mate take me home'
Now, for the rest of us with our normal eye sight working, it was plain to see he
had just jumped in front of an MOD black mini metro......Being driven by the
Sergeant Major
Did you actually watch Alf Garnett, as I am not sure you understand the message
from the show.
Maybe I am not getting your point, but as far as the show was concerned, the
joke was at Alf for being an idiot, and not at the expense of any black people.
It was not saying whites are superior or that blacks are inferior, but rather that
Alf was out of touch and he was in the wrong.
I have just remembered something, which I found very funny
(but may upset some posters).
While on one of the Bold 'something' exercises in Germany, one of my best mates
(I am too scared to say he was of Asian origin, as this will be seen as validation by some), who was a fellow Bristolian, but had parents from India, used to dress up
as a punka wholla, by wearing old sheets, every time visiting officers would come
by the squadron location. My troop commander would say that we did not know
his name, but that he just followed us all over the world to serve tea (at this point, please note that this was my mates idea to do this, amongst many other bizarre
stunts).
To me this whole episode was massively funny, because the visitors believed the
story every time......And for no other reason
.Just to balance this up a bit. While staying at another camp in the South of
England, this same mate had been out for a few drinks late one night, and decided
he could not walk back to camp. With his beer goggles on he saw an approaching
taxi, and jumped out in front of it, saying 'oi mate take me home'
Now, for the rest of us with our normal eye sight working, it was plain to see he
had just jumped in front of an MOD black mini metro......Being driven by the
Sergeant Major
My sentiments exactly Unchecked! Esp' in the light of the potential 40% savings being asked of Govt Depts this evening! (MoD will be let off with 10-20% but I fear that could be over and above any SDR savings already being muted?!)
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I joined the RAF in 1976 as an air trafficker, left in 1990 and qualified as a NATs air traffic controller. I retired in 2008. I controlled the hijacked Sudanese Airbus which landed at Stansted in 1997 with over 200 people on board, and the Royal Squadron BAe146 which nearly fell out of the sky the same year because some well-documented muppet hadn't put all the parts back in the engines after a service. Believe me, that aircraft came within a whisker of being a fireball in the approach lights, and I'm still not pleased about how many years it probably took off my life.
Now I've read all this stuff about gays and conferences for LGBTS and such like and I totally agree it's not a subject worth wasting money on in the present fiscal climate because nothing's worth wasting money on when people are getting shot at in Afghanistan on a daily basis. However, I'm sick to death of 'it's against my faith, and where does it say in the Bible', and since I'm an ocean-going, fully-rigged, civil-partnered lesbian, would anyone who with hind-sight was on either of the above planes like to stick their hands up and say they would have parachuted out of them because they didn't want to be in a plane which was being saved by a dyke please do so now? Or shall we just get on with our lives in 2010? For gawd's sake, moan if you like, I'll be out of here for good, because I really can't be bothered with this anymore. Over and out.
Now I've read all this stuff about gays and conferences for LGBTS and such like and I totally agree it's not a subject worth wasting money on in the present fiscal climate because nothing's worth wasting money on when people are getting shot at in Afghanistan on a daily basis. However, I'm sick to death of 'it's against my faith, and where does it say in the Bible', and since I'm an ocean-going, fully-rigged, civil-partnered lesbian, would anyone who with hind-sight was on either of the above planes like to stick their hands up and say they would have parachuted out of them because they didn't want to be in a plane which was being saved by a dyke please do so now? Or shall we just get on with our lives in 2010? For gawd's sake, moan if you like, I'll be out of here for good, because I really can't be bothered with this anymore. Over and out.
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SWJ wrote:
As a fully-paid-up, card carrying member of the trans community for the last thirteen years I agree wholeheartedly with you that bigotry is born out of ignorance. Only by being prepared to stand up and be counted can we ever hope to change things.
Lynne Braithwaite was a Crew Chief on Vulcans, and a good friend before her untimely death. She was like me transgendered. So how many others here can expect a fly-past in their honour at their funeral?
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In her memory Lynne Braithwaite had a resounding send off at Lancaster Crematorium on Friday August 22nd. As a once met never forgotten character, this lady went out in style.
As friends and guests waited for the hearse to arrive, there was a roar of jet engines and the Vulcan Bomber that Lynne had been instrumental in restoring (the only one flying in the world) flew over the chapel in Lynne's honour. Apparently the team who had worked on the Vulcan with Lynne had organised the flyby as a surprise and it had flown from Lincolnshire (some 160 miles away and must have taken some organising). It was an awesome sight and there was not a dry eye in the crowd as it flew over us. The Vulcan To the Sky Trust have written a tribute to Lynne on their website.
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and since I'm an ocean-going, fully-rigged, civil-partnered lesbian, would anyone who with hind-sight was on either of the above planes like to stick their hands up and say they would have parachuted out of them because they didn't want to be in a plane which was being saved by a dyke please do so now?
Lynne Braithwaite was a Crew Chief on Vulcans, and a good friend before her untimely death. She was like me transgendered. So how many others here can expect a fly-past in their honour at their funeral?
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In her memory Lynne Braithwaite had a resounding send off at Lancaster Crematorium on Friday August 22nd. As a once met never forgotten character, this lady went out in style.
As friends and guests waited for the hearse to arrive, there was a roar of jet engines and the Vulcan Bomber that Lynne had been instrumental in restoring (the only one flying in the world) flew over the chapel in Lynne's honour. Apparently the team who had worked on the Vulcan with Lynne had organised the flyby as a surprise and it had flown from Lincolnshire (some 160 miles away and must have taken some organising). It was an awesome sight and there was not a dry eye in the crowd as it flew over us. The Vulcan To the Sky Trust have written a tribute to Lynne on their website.
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The above two posts sum up nicely why the silent majority of folk in this country are silent, it's because they live in abject fear of using the words gay, lesbian, black, immigration etc etc in any bloody context because the second they do some Muppet labels them a bigot.
If someone comes to a personal decision that, based on his/her religious teachings and understandings same sex marriages are wrong they are not bigots they are simply folk who have arrived at a personal conclusion based on their own belief.
The vast majority of the population are like me, heterosexual, and for most of us understanding about ALL sexual orientation is simplicity in it's self but the moment you voice any opinion that is not "PC" you are pilloried.
I believe that sex between a man and a women is perfectly natural and that gay/lesbian sex is not natural.
But I also understand that for gay and lesbian people gay and lesbian sex is perfectly natural whilst heterosexual sex is not, but if I dare to voice the first opinion without this clarification then I am going to be in a world of hurt with the "PC" federales.
I know that opinions are like arseholes in that everyone has one but with some incredibly intolerant and bigoted folk the moment your opinion does not match theirs they bring out the race/sex card, stamp their feet and cry foul
If someone comes to a personal decision that, based on his/her religious teachings and understandings same sex marriages are wrong they are not bigots they are simply folk who have arrived at a personal conclusion based on their own belief.
The vast majority of the population are like me, heterosexual, and for most of us understanding about ALL sexual orientation is simplicity in it's self but the moment you voice any opinion that is not "PC" you are pilloried.
I believe that sex between a man and a women is perfectly natural and that gay/lesbian sex is not natural.
But I also understand that for gay and lesbian people gay and lesbian sex is perfectly natural whilst heterosexual sex is not, but if I dare to voice the first opinion without this clarification then I am going to be in a world of hurt with the "PC" federales.
I know that opinions are like arseholes in that everyone has one but with some incredibly intolerant and bigoted folk the moment your opinion does not match theirs they bring out the race/sex card, stamp their feet and cry foul
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How was London, Wholi'?
A good night - a major headache!
And only had to ban one person on return home!!!
Very sorry to learn that some ageist policy diktat has been imposed on AEF volunteers, Wholi'..... Hope the headache isn't too acute.
Why can't 'they' assess on condition rather than age?
Regarding the 'laser guided bomb' community, many of us will have our own private opinions. However, at least such people are no longer at the mercy of blackmailers and bullies threatening to expose their orientation. Which can only be A Good Thing.
Why can't 'they' assess on condition rather than age?
Regarding the 'laser guided bomb' community, many of us will have our own private opinions. However, at least such people are no longer at the mercy of blackmailers and bullies threatening to expose their orientation. Which can only be A Good Thing.
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"LGBT community will be in ten years and how they will get there."
Well seeing as they cannot procreate NATURALLY who knows where they will be in ten years! Where will the white heterosexual community be in 10 years and will it also be allowed special funding?
Well seeing as they cannot procreate NATURALLY who knows where they will be in ten years! Where will the white heterosexual community be in 10 years and will it also be allowed special funding?
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Wholigan
BEagle
Wholigan
Heh, heh, heh
BEagle did banter about Wholi being a **
**, and he didn't notice.
I'm away for a couple of days.
How was London, Wholi'?
Nope, not London BEags, was near Colerne...
BEagle did banter about Wholi being a **
**, and he didn't notice.
I suspect that Wholi' might perhaps have got ever-so-slightly whammed last night and that, as a result, his banter detector might not have been at its most sensitive setting today.....
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You said:
and since I'm an ocean-going, fully-rigged, civil-partnered lesbian, would anyone who with hind-sight was on either of the above planes like to stick their hands up and say they would have parachuted out of them because they didn't want to be in a plane which was being saved by a dyke please do so now?
Now, if you do go to one of these conferences, please don't use that word or you will be thrown out for using abusive language, and will be deemed to have been offensive to yourself.
You do make a good point though, which is just as funny as the died in the wool racists who seem to become 'normal humans' for the duration of any life saving medical care received from non whites
You said:
and since I'm an ocean-going, fully-rigged, civil-partnered lesbian, would anyone who with hind-sight was on either of the above planes like to stick their hands up and say they would have parachuted out of them because they didn't want to be in a plane which was being saved by a dyke please do so now?
Now, if you do go to one of these conferences, please don't use that word or you will be thrown out for using abusive language, and will be deemed to have been offensive to yourself.
You do make a good point though, which is just as funny as the died in the wool racists who seem to become 'normal humans' for the duration of any life saving medical care received from non whites
My biggest objection would be to the concept that the two aircraft in question were "saved" by an air trafficer - whatever their sexual orientation might happen to be!!!
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I don't get why your all so bother about the Laser Guided Bombs Tactics meeting... holding it at the MOD seems to make perfect sense to me.
(In a bit of a hurry so didn't have time to read the full article. Anything interesting in it?)
(In a bit of a hurry so didn't have time to read the full article. Anything interesting in it?)
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Openly gay guy I used to work with went to a couple of gay pride and lgbt marches last year. He was deeply scathing of them saying that in his opinion they did little to further the sexuality awareness campaigns. In fact he always said that they just seemed like an excuse for an orgy. Then again he was/is a fairly straight sort of gay guy with a long term civil partner. He'd tell you that his sexuality was a personal issue but no big deal...nothing to hide but nothing to broadcast either and certainly not worthy of spending government money on a private matter. Nice bloke.
Serpent
..and no....it's not me.
Serpent
..and no....it's not me.
.....since I'm an ocean-going, fully-rigged, civil-partnered lesbian ....
..... called Still Wee Jock?
Jack
aka Jock but none of the above other than ocean-going ......
..... called Still Wee Jock?
Jack
aka Jock but none of the above other than ocean-going ......
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Sorry folks - as BEagle says, I was somewhat tired and emotional and thus did not notice the banter warning flag!
Hangover now delayed until tomorrow as just got back from an afternoon BBQ session in the village.
Hangover now delayed until tomorrow as just got back from an afternoon BBQ session in the village.
just got back from an afternoon BBQ session in the village
"For the greater good......!"
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Beags, you are nearly on form there.......But surely there would be the same amount of folks in the village today, as there was one that could not be found until Wholigan got there.
That said, maybe wholi is tired and emotional after meeting the very attractive and often naked girl who lived above the pub.
That said, maybe wholi is tired and emotional after meeting the very attractive and often naked girl who lived above the pub.