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Pilot at William's base changes sex - *UK News - MSN News UK
Why make a big fuss about William being posted to the same base????? must be short of royal stories to print
Pilot at William's base changes sex
A pilot stationed at the same RAF base as Prince William is to undergo a sex change
A helicopter pilot stationed at the same RAF base as Prince William is to undergo a sex change, the Ministry of Defence has confirmed.
Flight Lieutenant Ian Holdom, 29, who flies with the Search and Rescue Force (Sarf) wants to become a woman called Ayla.
A Ministry of Defence spokesman stressed the RAF officer's plans to change sex were not an issue for the service - only if he could do the job.
William is training to becoming a helicopter with Sarf and is using the same officer's mess at RAF Valley on Anglesey, North Wales, as Flt Lt Holdom but it is not known if they have met.
The 29-year-old is a Sea King helicopter co-pilot while the prince will not complete his studies until September, so there is no prospect of the two flying together in the near future, said the MoD spokesman.
The Sun newspaper reported that Flt Lt Holdom told friends he had been diagnosed with gender dysmorphia and expected to become a woman in the next 12 months.
The second-in-line to the throne will be based at RAF Valley if he successfully completes his military training and will start as co-pilot.
The MoD spokesman said: "This is no big deal for the RAF, or the services in general for that matter, whether you are talking about trans-gender or homosexuality. All we have to deal with is can that person do the job, can Ian fly as a co-pilot in the search and rescue?"
Flight Lieutenant Wales, 27, can expect to be promoted to captain and overall control of the helicopter in the coming years, but how quickly will depend on his ability and performance.
William could find himself flying rescue missions to Northern Ireland as RAF Valley in North Wales routinely responds to calls from Ulster.
A pilot stationed at the same RAF base as Prince William is to undergo a sex change
A helicopter pilot stationed at the same RAF base as Prince William is to undergo a sex change, the Ministry of Defence has confirmed.
Flight Lieutenant Ian Holdom, 29, who flies with the Search and Rescue Force (Sarf) wants to become a woman called Ayla.
A Ministry of Defence spokesman stressed the RAF officer's plans to change sex were not an issue for the service - only if he could do the job.
William is training to becoming a helicopter with Sarf and is using the same officer's mess at RAF Valley on Anglesey, North Wales, as Flt Lt Holdom but it is not known if they have met.
The 29-year-old is a Sea King helicopter co-pilot while the prince will not complete his studies until September, so there is no prospect of the two flying together in the near future, said the MoD spokesman.
The Sun newspaper reported that Flt Lt Holdom told friends he had been diagnosed with gender dysmorphia and expected to become a woman in the next 12 months.
The second-in-line to the throne will be based at RAF Valley if he successfully completes his military training and will start as co-pilot.
The MoD spokesman said: "This is no big deal for the RAF, or the services in general for that matter, whether you are talking about trans-gender or homosexuality. All we have to deal with is can that person do the job, can Ian fly as a co-pilot in the search and rescue?"
Flight Lieutenant Wales, 27, can expect to be promoted to captain and overall control of the helicopter in the coming years, but how quickly will depend on his ability and performance.
William could find himself flying rescue missions to Northern Ireland as RAF Valley in North Wales routinely responds to calls from Ulster.
Why make a big fuss about William being posted to the same base????? must be short of royal stories to print
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No apologies for quoting Life of Brian
Judith: [on Stan's desire to be a mother] Here! I've got an idea: Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb - which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans' - but that he can have the *right* to have babies.
Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother... sister, sorry.
Reg: What's the *point*?
Francis: What?
Reg: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can't have babies?
Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
Reg: It's symbolic of his struggle against reality.
Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother... sister, sorry.
Reg: What's the *point*?
Francis: What?
Reg: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can't have babies?
Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
Reg: It's symbolic of his struggle against reality.
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They be nothing but a bunch of tobbaccyy chewin beer swillin webbed toed freaky rednecks - next them us Cornish look like the triumph of the gene pool.
And the water is orrible up there too.
Tis a nice evening for a flying down ere - shame I'm fixing broken machinery!
And the water is orrible up there too.
Tis a nice evening for a flying down ere - shame I'm fixing broken machinery!
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Air police,
I see your view of people struggling with gender re-assignment issues is very PC, well-informed and not at all judgmental.
did i meet you at Shrivenham on the equal ops and diversity training?
I see your view of people struggling with gender re-assignment issues is very PC, well-informed and not at all judgmental.
did i meet you at Shrivenham on the equal ops and diversity training?
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I have to say that I find it a bit 'odd'. But to be honest, do you think the poor bloke splashing around in the ogin will give a toss about the trans gender nature of the pilot flying the beast that is going to rescue him.....I think not.
Given the organisation this chap / chapette is a member of, it must have taken some real......ahem 'balls' to come out and do this. As long as he keeps flying, and saving lives I have to say I really don’t care.
At least he didn't become a politician, then I would have been truly disgusted!!
Given the organisation this chap / chapette is a member of, it must have taken some real......ahem 'balls' to come out and do this. As long as he keeps flying, and saving lives I have to say I really don’t care.
At least he didn't become a politician, then I would have been truly disgusted!!
A few years down the road and he/she/it will squeal about discrimination/victimisation. After a bit of a kerfuffle in the courts, he/she/it will depart Bettys flying circus with a shedload of taxpayers money.
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this person is not the first and won't be the last. I happened to be on IOT around the time someone commissioned from the ranks having had gender re-assignment. end result was withdrawal from trg and widely publicised in the Sun. (not for gender re-assignemnt but did not complete trg)
Having met the said person, I do have great deal more sympathy for the massive decision they have to make, especially in the forces. It's just something so foreign to most people that it's so difficult to understand or empathize with.
I thought the diversity trg and EO was **** too - I had a two initiation ceremonies - 1 extra for being a gobsh1te
Having met the said person, I do have great deal more sympathy for the massive decision they have to make, especially in the forces. It's just something so foreign to most people that it's so difficult to understand or empathize with.
I thought the diversity trg and EO was **** too - I had a two initiation ceremonies - 1 extra for being a gobsh1te
Shame
I am sure the individual concerned has had a sad time trying to deal with all this. It can't be a bundle of larffs not really knowing who/what you are.
However, the Forces / Police / Health Service / Local Authority etc etc are very big on welcoming diversity in this day and age which I believe to a man (sorry), is just talk. This ain't normal and it will not be long before the individual concerned beats a quiet retreat from the RAF I'm sure. Working with an individual in these circumstances will put you on your guard at all times and the slightest slip could be career ending.
I wish him/her luck in the future, but have to say, the sultry photographs in The Sun probably haven't helped. Wonder how they got hold of those.........
However, the Forces / Police / Health Service / Local Authority etc etc are very big on welcoming diversity in this day and age which I believe to a man (sorry), is just talk. This ain't normal and it will not be long before the individual concerned beats a quiet retreat from the RAF I'm sure. Working with an individual in these circumstances will put you on your guard at all times and the slightest slip could be career ending.
I wish him/her luck in the future, but have to say, the sultry photographs in The Sun probably haven't helped. Wonder how they got hold of those.........
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he/she/it will depart Bettys flying circus with a shedload of taxpayers money.
There are plenty of gay/transgender servicemen and women now quietly doing a really good job, including in front line aviation, at least partly due to the premature ending of the careers of their forebearer's, which were eventually compensated for by the taxpayer.
You should consider yourselves lucky that you get "diversity training" at the taxpayer's expense.
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Don't commissioning boards interview/psych test people these days? The UK military used to be held in very high regard but this sort of thing and the appalling waste of tax payers money make me ashamed.
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Whilst I respect his right to make this decision, there are some serious questions to be asked. How long will he be ineffective for pre, during and post op?
I recall from dealing with a potential recruit in an AFCO that the advice from the medics is that recruitment while undergoing the procedure was not permitted due to the effects of the op and the myriad of drugs that need to be taken.
If that is indeed the case, why should the RAF carry someone non-effective? Would a medical discharge not be more appropriate? I'm not saying this should happen but lets have a serious debate.
I recall from dealing with a potential recruit in an AFCO that the advice from the medics is that recruitment while undergoing the procedure was not permitted due to the effects of the op and the myriad of drugs that need to be taken.
If that is indeed the case, why should the RAF carry someone non-effective? Would a medical discharge not be more appropriate? I'm not saying this should happen but lets have a serious debate.
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And there's me thinking you had to be a complete dick to serve at Valley.
Good luck to the guy, but I hope this doesn't start a trend and ends up being made compulsory!
Good luck to the guy, but I hope this doesn't start a trend and ends up being made compulsory!