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Red Arrows collision (Merged)

Old 23rd Mar 2010, 19:51
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Oh come on fellas - there really is a time and a place for this nonsense. The Reds debate is hardly for today, or do we get some enjoyment out of kicking people when they're undoubtedly feeling pretty down.

Maybe I'm just old-fashioned.....?
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 19:53
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no matter what you think about the validity of the team at least keep those opinions to yourself until the pilot is up on his feet again.
Shame on the media who have released pictures of the pilot being taken into hospital.
Get well soon fella and hope to see all nine performing their world famous display many times this season.
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 19:54
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Well the Sun's pics has confirmed my fears.

To the both of you: get well soon.

Thoughts are with you and your folks.
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 20:07
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I know the ejectee well and am gutted he's in pain.

However better outcome than could have been.

Speedy recovery and a face-lick awaits!
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 20:25
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Farfrompuken, Well said.

Best thoughts and wishes to those involved, and their families.

As for:
"one of the pilots has some very minor injuries, unnecessarily inflicted through bravado of dubious worth?"

I only know what has been reported in the media so far, so as you know the full details, please post them. I always pray that the only thing hurt in an ejection is pride, but do they are pretty violent experiences to say the least.

As for knowing the accident involved bravado, don't forget to make yourself available to any BOI

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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 20:25
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I think he may have signed a red arrow book for me last Bournemouth Airshow ... (However I didn't try licking his face though Farfrompuken )

God speed thier recovery.
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 20:37
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Tis not the time to be writing "Tis" when you are trying to say "it is not".

The rags carrying the photos are amongst the most worthless products humankind has managed to find a market for. if you read such shite, you deserve all you get.

Get well soon mate and get back in the air. This old fart still gets goosebumps whenever you appear.
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 20:38
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To stop any further gnashing of teeth re names and pictures - here's the official announcement. Ministry of Defence | Defence News | Training and Adventure | Pilots safe after Red Arrows collision
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 20:39
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I might be sick, i might be human - but isn't the thrill of air shows and in particular something as dynamic as the synchro pair, the fact that it is dangerous and that some plucky and talented bloke is up there doing it?

I don't begrudge these chaps two aeroplanes or any amount of coloured deisel. Airshows would be absolutely toilet if there was nothing spectacular about them and with spectacle comes danger. These guys do an amazing display in a modified trainer and charge at each other at speeds that the average human will never experience. In short, it was going to happen at some point! It's part of the game.

I am a fully paid up crab basher, but love the reds. I think that getting rid of them would be a mistake, and know that if we ever make display aviation flawlessly safe, we'll lose one of the main reasons we all love it. It would be like an un-contested scrum. Pointless.

Lastly - I have no idea what the head-to-head sanctuary plan is - but can we surmise that one of them owes the UK an aircraft, and his mate a beer?

Best wishes for a speedy recovery. And a pragmatic BOI!
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 20:46
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The stay in hospital could be from the ejection, the dislocation from a loose shoulder strap, its possible they will be testing for back injuries, lets hope they find nothing. best of luck you guys.
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 21:15
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Oh, and congrats to the mods on a most apt thread title. bravo.
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 21:27
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You will notice that a few posts have been deleted - and you probably don't need me to tell you why. So stay on topic guys and cut the spats, they are completely unnecessary.

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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 21:38
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Glad the Pilots are ok

Get well soon.
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 21:51
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Originally Posted by SaddamsLoveChild
I do have to ask if the circa 1.5 million . . . may be better spent on the defence budget and not touting a morally and financially suspect british waste of space company.
The Sparrows have been the major draw at airshows for many years now (XH558 has slightly eclipsed them recently).
I've seen the crowds disperse as soon as they have finished their display (unless they started the day's flying). Joe Public might not fully appreciate the skill required - but they know what they want to watch!
I've also seen people of all ages crowding to get autographs - and who knows how many youngsters have been persuaded to join up through seeing them at some stage of their life, additionally, within the RAF it gives something for the pilots (and ground crews) to aspire to.
So don't underestimate the benefit to the RAF . . .
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 21:53
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Flown with both guys plenty of times - get well quickly Lingy.
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 22:01
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May I join in offering my very best wishes to both pilots, their families and their colleagues. I look forward to reading about them all achieving their PDA very soon.
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 22:03
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As the pilots' identities are now in the public domain -

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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 22:20
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Glad to hear they're ok...

Does anyone know if there is a plan in place for a replacement pilot if an event like this happens? Or will the Reds be cancelled for the year?
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 22:28
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Well said, with you all the way, hope the poor chap is soon out of pain and ready to join Red Arrows again! Thanks for the post pal!
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Old 23rd Mar 2010, 22:31
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The title - two Reds have "merged"?

Glad they're OK and hope they're up and about v. soon, flying the flag for the RAF and the UK. Best of luck to them.
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