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Resettlement:
I recently began the beginning of the end of my Service Job. Learned a few things during the mandatory resettlement 'sign on' presentation. In particular, you cannot claim any claims or allowances during terminal leave so if one literally leaves it until the last min, you loose. The months terminal leave was nice, but you cannot be employed by 2 employers before commencement of terminal leave. All this points to working out the optimal 'last working day' as opposed to last 'paid day', well in advance.
However what really gripped me was that the 'golden handshake' towards training courses has not been increased since 1998. The £534 is worth buttons now compared to what it was in '98, yet I cannot recall it ever being mentioned on these pages. We all have a proven record in our own area of expertise, but there is little that can be transfered direct to the civilian world without additional qualifications/training. I would of thought that the resettlement package was a direct correlation to how ones service has been valued, though perhaps it is!!
If anybody has some good tips on getting the best possible value for money from the resettlement packages, I would be grateful if you would go public (or PM). The good news, is that I did not leave signing up to the package however crap it is until the very last min, although there is already a degree of groundrush involved. I find that everywhere I go now the thought process is "I could do that" or "Shocking, you can shove that one" with not much tucked away in the middle ground.
However what really gripped me was that the 'golden handshake' towards training courses has not been increased since 1998. The £534 is worth buttons now compared to what it was in '98, yet I cannot recall it ever being mentioned on these pages. We all have a proven record in our own area of expertise, but there is little that can be transfered direct to the civilian world without additional qualifications/training. I would of thought that the resettlement package was a direct correlation to how ones service has been valued, though perhaps it is!!
If anybody has some good tips on getting the best possible value for money from the resettlement packages, I would be grateful if you would go public (or PM). The good news, is that I did not leave signing up to the package however crap it is until the very last min, although there is already a degree of groundrush involved. I find that everywhere I go now the thought process is "I could do that" or "Shocking, you can shove that one" with not much tucked away in the middle ground.
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Have you thought about combining the resettlement money with enhanced learning credits?
This could enable you to use £2000 ELCs, + £534 (which can be your 20% ).
I've used pretty much every penny, but I'm engineering, not sure what options are open to pilots. (Multiflight?)
This could enable you to use £2000 ELCs, + £534 (which can be your 20% ).
I've used pretty much every penny, but I'm engineering, not sure what options are open to pilots. (Multiflight?)
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This could enable you to use £2000 ELCs, + £534 (which can be your 20%) - plus, if you get in quick, your annual educational allowance of £178pa (?) either side of this financial year - not much, but better than a....
It would be good to hear from those who have just completed the ctp resettlement programme to get their views - top tips etc.
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It would be good to hear from those who have just completed the ctp resettlement programme to get their views - top tips etc.
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That would be me. 
But like I said, I fix them, not fly them.
You can't combine ELC, SLC and resettlement grant.
ELC and Res grant = OK
SLC and Res grant = OK
SLC, ELC and Res grant = not OK.
Although if you resettlement training is modular, you might be able to 'fudge' it somehow. (So I was told your honour, but I wouldn't do that.)
But like I said, I fix them, not fly them.You can't combine ELC, SLC and resettlement grant.
ELC and Res grant = OK
SLC and Res grant = OK
SLC, ELC and Res grant = not OK.
Although if you resettlement training is modular, you might be able to 'fudge' it somehow. (So I was told your honour, but I wouldn't do that.)
The months terminal leave was nice, but you cannot be employed by 2 employers before commencement of terminal leave. All this points to working out the optimal 'last working day' as opposed to last 'paid day', well in advance.
The months terminal leave was nice, but you cannot be employed by 2 employers before commencement of terminal leave.
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Negotiate a golden hello, lets say, 4 weeks pay or aprox the termination leave time??
This way you can do a period of 'freemans' and if they like you, the golden hello.
Still haven't worked out the taxman thing but hey - better than nothing!!
This way you can do a period of 'freemans' and if they like you, the golden hello.
Still haven't worked out the taxman thing but hey - better than nothing!!
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An old buddy of mine claimed the full whack for a resettlement course on Goat De-horning and Husbandary. The course was 4 weeks long and involved him staying in the Shetlands.
He got paid for the course and lodging fees.
The fact that his wife had 2 goats and lived in the Shetlands had nothing to do with it.
He got paid for the course and lodging fees.
The fact that his wife had 2 goats and lived in the Shetlands had nothing to do with it.
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As a lot of us find out when we retire, once the Military has your ID card and your forms are all filled in and signed, their interest in you disappears. If you start another job it will be classed as a second job until your service finishes officially, for obvious reasons, and you will be taxed accordingly. Example - my tax and NI allowances are with my pension, so any earnings on top of this are fully taxed, it all balances out in the end.
I also know of guys that have attached their resettlement to their terminal leave and started their offered employment.
I also know of guys that have attached their resettlement to their terminal leave and started their offered employment.
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I've been impressed with the resettlement package. Although I'm not looking for a job I've been able to do a couple of courses that will help out with things I'm planning to do. The £500+ is a tad snug but the allowances that go with it for T&S mean that you can achieve something meaningful IMHO the biggest pain was the mountain of forms that needed filling out to claim anything. Unfathomable.
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Forms!
Re Resettlement forms- remember that you've got to keep the education/resettlement civil servants form processing stats up.........
The UK workforce currently totals around 29 million, of which around 5.8m work in the public sector.............
From National statistics website:
Public sector employment in the United Kingdom as a proportion of total employment was 20.4 per cent in June 2005. This was still below the June 1992 figure of 23.1 per cent but above the low point of 19.2 per cent in June 1999.
From 1991 to 1998, public sector employment fell every year, with an overall reduction of 816,000 over that period. From 1998 public sector employment rose every year to 5,846,000 in June 2005. This was 680,000 higher than in June 1998. Private sector employment rose by 1,241,000 (5.7 per cent) from June 1998 to June 2005.
Go figure.......(and watch the pre-electioneering on this topic)
The UK workforce currently totals around 29 million, of which around 5.8m work in the public sector.............
From National statistics website:
Public sector employment in the United Kingdom as a proportion of total employment was 20.4 per cent in June 2005. This was still below the June 1992 figure of 23.1 per cent but above the low point of 19.2 per cent in June 1999.
From 1991 to 1998, public sector employment fell every year, with an overall reduction of 816,000 over that period. From 1998 public sector employment rose every year to 5,846,000 in June 2005. This was 680,000 higher than in June 1998. Private sector employment rose by 1,241,000 (5.7 per cent) from June 1998 to June 2005.
Go figure.......(and watch the pre-electioneering on this topic)
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Speaking as someone who left recently and as someone who discharged a number of people early in his career, the RAF don't care what you do once you hand in your 1250 and sign the paperwork. They get twitchy if you mention going to work in Iraq/AFG whilst on leave/terminal leave. However ignorance is bliss. The tax man is only interested in you paying tax. Just don't tell the RAF what you are going to do, they can't make you tell them. Take resettlement, leave and terminal leave in that order if you want to stick to the rules. Good luck, it's a tough jobs market out there at the moment
You can't be paid by the another employer while in the RAF. But why not arrange for a 'training bonus' to be paid by your new employer the day after you officially leave.
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I am with Hoppy you CAN be paid by another employer whilst still in the RAF, just don't tell them! Your new employer doesn't care and the Data Protection Act does exactly what it says on the tin. 
I spent my entire last three months working for my new employer as I had found that all the decent resettlement courses are booked up almost nine months in advance. Not much good if you go out in less than six months and there were a lot of restrictions on exactly what you could spend the allowance on.
Still the interview with the resettlement civvy was of good value.
Regards all.
TG
I spent my entire last three months working for my new employer as I had found that all the decent resettlement courses are booked up almost nine months in advance. Not much good if you go out in less than six months and there were a lot of restrictions on exactly what you could spend the allowance on.
Still the interview with the resettlement civvy was of good value.
Regards all.
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There's no need to be secretive, it's within the rules to work whilst in the military, if you have the permission of your CO - Just ask some of the bouncers around any garrison town. What is not permitted is to work during any of the Graduated Resettlement Days (GRT). GRT days can be used on courses or taken as work experience and can be taken at any stage in your final 2 years of service. The trick then is to use the GRT days first on courses or work experience followed by leave that has been saved up and then terminal leave. If you have been offered a job and need to start straight away fill out the forms to do "work experience" with your new company and ask them to give you the equivelent money as a sign on bonus once you've used up the GRT days. The added bonus is that you can claim your food and accomodation whilst on work experience.
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Resettlement is, like most major changes in life, quite daunting when you first approach it. If you want to get th emost out of it then there are quite a lot of hoops that you will have to jump through - the paperwork, for example, seems designed to discourage you from getting everything to which you are entitled - but your station's Resettlement Advisor will be a great help to you. Get to know him/her and don't be afraid to ask for help.
Resettlement is a great opportunity to get some 'free' training courtesy of the ELC/SLC & Resettlement Grant combination as previous posters have described. Yes, you will have to do some research, but the effort will be worth it. For example, I undertook a £2000 week-long residential course and didn't have to pay a penny of my own; the ELC paid for 80%, the Resettlement Grant paid for the remaining 20%. Resettlement being a duty, I reclaimed the mileage and decent accommodation which was booked via DHRS.
As your formal resettlement period is time 'on duty', you can't legitimately carry out another paid job during that period. The leave regs (top tip: read them!) do, however, state that you can undertake another paid job when on leave with the permission of your Commanding Officer. I followed the advice given to me by PSF: apply using a Gen App and paraphrase the relevant regulation. Once countersigned by my boss this went to OC PSF (junior to me, never mind my CO!) who approved it. Winner.
Plan your leave carefully. I calculated in detail and saved up all my carried-forward and annual leave, which I added to resettlement and terminal leave.
I was lucky enough to start my new job immediately upon leaving the Service and the result of all the hoop-jumping was quite profitable: 7 weeks of Resettlement on full Service pay during which I completed a useful £2000 course 'for free', a month of annual leave during which I received full Service pay plus full pay in my new job, followed by a month of Terminal Leave ditto.
Don't be cynical about resettlement, you don't get anything like it in civvy street!
E99
PS: Plenty of people told me that you could ignore the 'no pay during resettlement' rule, but as I now work for the police I made sure everything was completely legit!
Resettlement is a great opportunity to get some 'free' training courtesy of the ELC/SLC & Resettlement Grant combination as previous posters have described. Yes, you will have to do some research, but the effort will be worth it. For example, I undertook a £2000 week-long residential course and didn't have to pay a penny of my own; the ELC paid for 80%, the Resettlement Grant paid for the remaining 20%. Resettlement being a duty, I reclaimed the mileage and decent accommodation which was booked via DHRS.
As your formal resettlement period is time 'on duty', you can't legitimately carry out another paid job during that period. The leave regs (top tip: read them!) do, however, state that you can undertake another paid job when on leave with the permission of your Commanding Officer. I followed the advice given to me by PSF: apply using a Gen App and paraphrase the relevant regulation. Once countersigned by my boss this went to OC PSF (junior to me, never mind my CO!) who approved it. Winner.
Plan your leave carefully. I calculated in detail and saved up all my carried-forward and annual leave, which I added to resettlement and terminal leave.
I was lucky enough to start my new job immediately upon leaving the Service and the result of all the hoop-jumping was quite profitable: 7 weeks of Resettlement on full Service pay during which I completed a useful £2000 course 'for free', a month of annual leave during which I received full Service pay plus full pay in my new job, followed by a month of Terminal Leave ditto.
Don't be cynical about resettlement, you don't get anything like it in civvy street!
E99
PS: Plenty of people told me that you could ignore the 'no pay during resettlement' rule, but as I now work for the police I made sure everything was completely legit!
The hard fact about the Resettlement system is that It's run by folks who've not yet been "resettled". It's archaic and unsuited to the many and varied skills you've undoubtedly accrued but perhaps don't yet know about. Trust in yourself and invest in some good research vis a vis prospective employers and work hard at the CV.
To prove how in touch the resettlement system is an old chum applied for a spot of duty with Jersey's Bureau D'Estrange hoping for some Bergerac type action.
The good folks at resettlement HQ gave him two weeks in a side street off Piccadilly thumbing notes in a Bureau de Change!
To prove how in touch the resettlement system is an old chum applied for a spot of duty with Jersey's Bureau D'Estrange hoping for some Bergerac type action.
The good folks at resettlement HQ gave him two weeks in a side street off Piccadilly thumbing notes in a Bureau de Change!