The Falklands / The Malvinas - (again?)
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I wasn't aware of much RN involvement in Afghanistan,
Apart from
The Royal Marines
845 Naval Air Squadron
846 Naval Air Squadron
857 Naval Air Squadron
847 Naval Air Squadron
Fleet Diving unit................. Which may not seem a lot but when you consider that the CPA of Afghanistan is about 300 miles from the Sea then that isn't bad
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Well, you are obviously not really aware of much then, are you?
I would suggest some basic research Mike77......
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Hi guys!
I am sorry if someone felt unconfortable with my lastest post, it was not the intention.
I have been at the islands for only one week, and it was quite enough for me... there are not so many things to do there except going to the pub
! What I wanted to express was that our countries are "fighting" for a piece of earth with no value except the people who lives there and the oil(or not).
If you read my first post in this topic, you will see that, in my oppinion, islanders will always prefer the UK rather than Argentina. No discussion about that... I am realistic. There is a paint in one street that says something like this: "Argentians are always welcome but do not claim about the islands" (I know that it´s not litteral). That gives you an idea of the islanders intentions.
The oil drilling maybe it is not profitable so do not be worried about the opposition of sudamerican countries... and if it were, I repeat, you have Chile.
PS: Everyone in Argentina knows that we do not have anything to do against UK! That should be a suicide. Unless we were talking about rugby....
I am sorry if someone felt unconfortable with my lastest post, it was not the intention.
I have been at the islands for only one week, and it was quite enough for me... there are not so many things to do there except going to the pub
! What I wanted to express was that our countries are "fighting" for a piece of earth with no value except the people who lives there and the oil(or not). If you read my first post in this topic, you will see that, in my oppinion, islanders will always prefer the UK rather than Argentina. No discussion about that... I am realistic. There is a paint in one street that says something like this: "Argentians are always welcome but do not claim about the islands" (I know that it´s not litteral). That gives you an idea of the islanders intentions.
The oil drilling maybe it is not profitable so do not be worried about the opposition of sudamerican countries... and if it were, I repeat, you have Chile.
PS: Everyone in Argentina knows that we do not have anything to do against UK! That should be a suicide. Unless we were talking about rugby....
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Apart from
The Royal Marines
845 Naval Air Squadron
846 Naval Air Squadron
857 Naval Air Squadron
847 Naval Air Squadron
Fleet Diving unit................. Which may not seem a lot but when you consider that the CPA of Afghanistan is about 300 miles from the Sea then that isn't bad
The Royal Marines
845 Naval Air Squadron
846 Naval Air Squadron
857 Naval Air Squadron
847 Naval Air Squadron
Fleet Diving unit................. Which may not seem a lot but when you consider that the CPA of Afghanistan is about 300 miles from the Sea then that isn't bad
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Las Malvinas / the F**kland Islands are such a barren wasteland that most things of any worth have to be flown in or sent by sea. So there is zero chance of the place being able to support major oil industry requirements - and don't forget that both the islanders and woolly-hatted busy-body envirofundamentalists would be up in arms if the seals / penguins or other wildlife were to be forced to move out so that oil installations could be built on the islands.
Das Island, in the Arabian/Persian Gulf can only be supplied by sea or air and has been for the last fifty years, providing major oil field support.
I'm just amazed that Argentina tore up the agreement on oil, talk about self destruct!
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Admiral Sir Mark Stanhope - Chatham House Speech Nov 09
He said:
From last October (08) to April (09) this year, around 3,000 members of
the Naval Service provided over 30% of the UK forces deployed to Helmand,
including not only the Royal Marines of 3 Commando Brigade and the Harrier
jets of the Naval Strike Wing, but also Naval Air Squadron helicopters and
significant numbers of logistic, engineering, medical and HQ staff.
Reference http://www.chathamhouse.org.uk/files...09stanhope.pdf
Admittedly only c. 10% of their total strength.
Don't you just love spinning stats!!
From last October (08) to April (09) this year, around 3,000 members of
the Naval Service provided over 30% of the UK forces deployed to Helmand,
including not only the Royal Marines of 3 Commando Brigade and the Harrier
jets of the Naval Strike Wing, but also Naval Air Squadron helicopters and
significant numbers of logistic, engineering, medical and HQ staff.
Reference http://www.chathamhouse.org.uk/files...09stanhope.pdf
Admittedly only c. 10% of their total strength.
Don't you just love spinning stats!!
This thread is about BennyLand. Would all the navy willy-wavers spouting off about 'the Stan' please find another thread for such discussions.
Thank you.
I venture to suggest that supplying somewhere in the Persian Gulf entirely by sea/air is probably slightly easier than coping with the vile climate of the South Atlantic.
Thank you.
I venture to suggest that supplying somewhere in the Persian Gulf entirely by sea/air is probably slightly easier than coping with the vile climate of the South Atlantic.
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Bennys - Nots - Stills
BEags. You're young enough to remember the various orders about what you could not call the locals. I believe the sequence was:
Bennys - Do not call them Bennys.
Nots - Do not call them Bennys or Nots
Stills - Do not etc .....
Bennys - Do not call them Bennys.
Nots - Do not call them Bennys or Nots
Stills - Do not etc .....
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
I venture to suggest that supplying somewhere in the Persian Gulf entirely by sea/air is probably slightly easier than coping with the vile climate of the South Atlantic.
I would presume the sums still work.
Well at least it looks as though, even though the broke MoD plans to throw way our MPA capability, we'll have a Vulcan again - an anonymous donor has just contributed £458 000 to the 558 Appeal Fund, so the £800 000 target has now been exceeded!
Andies - And they're still Bennies!
Andies - And they're still Bennies!
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
I believe the sequence was:
Bennys - Do not call them Bennys.
Nots - Do not call them Bennys or Nots
Stills - Do not etc .....
Bennys - Do not call them Bennys.
Nots - Do not call them Bennys or Nots
Stills - Do not etc .....
Bennys
Still (They're still Bennys)
Yetis (Yet they're still Bennys)
Andys (And yet they're still Bennys)
an anonymous donor has just contributed £458 000 to the 558 Appeal Fund, so the £800 000 target has now been exceeded!
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Torygraph: Navy intercepts Argentinian warship near British waters
The Royal Navy has intercepted an Argentinian warship near British waters in an apparent escalation of the row over the Falkland Islands.
Destroyer HMS York spotted the vessel around ten miles inside the disputed “oil zone” around the South Atlantic islands. The British crew had to radio the Argentinian ship, a smaller corvette named ARA Drummond, to demand that it change its course.
Sources told The Sun that the ship made an “innocent navigational blunder” and were embarrassed about the mistake.
It is believed that the Drummond was spotted sailing alongside a French fleet before it broke away and headed for the disputed zone.
Under international law, the 15 miles of sea surrounding the Falklands are officially British waters.
The ship was spotted around 65 miles from the islands, in an area of sea called the “conservation zone”. It is in this zone that the oil exploration is taking place. It is not illegal for Argentinian ships to enter it but the incident has heightened tensions.
A spokesman for the MoD played down the incident, insisting that the radio communication had been “friendly”. He said: “We can confirm that on 28 January this year during rough weather and at night, HMS YORK and an Argentine ship were operating in the same locality in international waters around 50 miles from Falkland Island Territorial Waters. After a friendly dialogue by radio they each continued with their own exercises.”
On Wednesday the MoD said that HMS York would remain the area around the islands. A British submarine has also been dispatched to the Falklands to patrol the area.
Argentina has since protested to the UN about the British oil exploration. Its foreign minister is due to meet Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.
The Royal Navy has intercepted an Argentinian warship near British waters in an apparent escalation of the row over the Falkland Islands.
Destroyer HMS York spotted the vessel around ten miles inside the disputed “oil zone” around the South Atlantic islands. The British crew had to radio the Argentinian ship, a smaller corvette named ARA Drummond, to demand that it change its course.
Sources told The Sun that the ship made an “innocent navigational blunder” and were embarrassed about the mistake.
It is believed that the Drummond was spotted sailing alongside a French fleet before it broke away and headed for the disputed zone.
Under international law, the 15 miles of sea surrounding the Falklands are officially British waters.
The ship was spotted around 65 miles from the islands, in an area of sea called the “conservation zone”. It is in this zone that the oil exploration is taking place. It is not illegal for Argentinian ships to enter it but the incident has heightened tensions.
A spokesman for the MoD played down the incident, insisting that the radio communication had been “friendly”. He said: “We can confirm that on 28 January this year during rough weather and at night, HMS YORK and an Argentine ship were operating in the same locality in international waters around 50 miles from Falkland Island Territorial Waters. After a friendly dialogue by radio they each continued with their own exercises.”
On Wednesday the MoD said that HMS York would remain the area around the islands. A British submarine has also been dispatched to the Falklands to patrol the area.
Argentina has since protested to the UN about the British oil exploration. Its foreign minister is due to meet Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.
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Here's what will happen.
It'll cost the UK a fortune to extract/process the oil & somehow or other the Americans will end up with the proceeds.......again
Maybe more Brits will have to die for the US&A to profit.......again
For the duration of the process the general UK population (and therefore by proxy the general pPrune population) will have been given some BS excuse that they actually believe to be true.......again
Fools will continue to be fooled.
It'll cost the UK a fortune to extract/process the oil & somehow or other the Americans will end up with the proceeds.......again
Maybe more Brits will have to die for the US&A to profit.......again
For the duration of the process the general UK population (and therefore by proxy the general pPrune population) will have been given some BS excuse that they actually believe to be true.......again
Fools will continue to be fooled.
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Just reading through this thread, I'm reminded of the early 20th century saying amongst naval personnel, who watched cut after cut after cut - and were then asked to do the impossible: "God and the navy we adore, when danger threatens, but not before".
Still true.
Still true.
