Cornerstone958

NDW
Try reading the 'sticky' at the top of the page.
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muppetofthenorth

As you've been told on another forum, the OASC battery is longer and harder than the AST you've just taken.

Take the time to go away and get your skill levels up. If you want the job, then the bit of extra work won't deter you.

c130jbloke

NDW,

As the others have said and I agree with, go away and complete the A levels for a start. The scary thing is that even if you had passed the tests, you would have been in the lower end of the band and with the number of applicants coming through the door now you need all the help you can get. As said, read the stick at the top and form a plan from there.

Good luck.

Ramp Monkey

The bar is set very high now , we don't need aircrew or Officers unless you are Regt or Spec med personnel . Go get some more education .

airborne_artist

What grade did you get at Maths GCSE? I'm fairly sure there's a strong link, particularly if you are not doing any Maths at AS/A level.

NDW

Many thanks for all your replies.

A_A regarding my Maths GCSE I achieved a grade C (9 marks of a Grade B), by no means excellent - but its a pass.

c130jbloke, I totally agree, now that I have experienced what the tests are like, and I fully appreciate that OASC will be longer and Harder, I am now in a position to continue with education and complete my A levels.

So fingers crossed for the future, and thanks for the supportive comments, really very much appreciated.

All the Best

Nathan

airborne_artist

Sorry to piss on your parade, but that's your problem - a grade C in Maths isn't enough for an aircrew (P/WSO/WSOp/ATC etc) pass. It's a pass in the eyes of the AFCO, but the ability it demonstrates is way short of the ability required to pass at OASC.

You might be able to turn it round, but it'll take a lot of effort.

The Old Fat One

Talk about "qualification creep". In 75 we required 3 'O' levels including English and a science subject - any pass would do.

As far as I know the job is the same, so WTF are all the academics for?

PS Weird thing aptitude. Very famously there was a young dude who was struggling a little at the old dry stuff on the Nimrod. Out the blue, he grabs a commission at OASC and ends as a very capable Jaguar pilot. Go figure.

Pontius Navigator

TOFT,

In the 60s it was 4-O-levels for NCA and 5 for pilot/nav/aeo and 2-A levels if you wanted to go to Cranditz - the only change for officer aircrew is that they now need 2-A levels, but then they go to Cranditz now.

OASC

In this bulletin, we would like to highlight the current policy regarding qualifications that are required for entry into the RAF as a commissioned officer, non-commissioned aircrew and non-commissioned ATC.

The information previously contained in this thread has been superseded by OASC Bulletin 27 on Thread 460 (Pg 23) of this forum.


Please note that, although OASC will endeavour to answer generic questions that arise, we will not be engaging or commenting on individual cases. In those cases, the individual is advised to contact their nearest AFCO who will be able to deal with any queries. All information published is for information only.

Information regarding a career in the RAF can be found at http://www.raf.mod.uk/careers

OASC

In this bulletin, we would like to highlight the current policy regarding anterior cruciate ligament reconstruction.

The forces involved in rupturing an anterior cruciate ligament are such that other damage to the knee, such as tears of a meniscus or damage to the knee joint surfaces, are common. If left untreated the ACL deficient knee is likely to suffer further damage resulting in premature osteoarthritis. While the surgical reconstruction of the ACL has progressed considerably over the years the reconstructed ligament is not able to mimic exactly the function of a normal knee, the knee therefore remains at greater risk of further injury and arthritis. In the words of a specialist knee surgeon “following reconstruction, the knee is not normal and never will be”.

The tri-service policy regarding anterior cruciate ligament reconstruction is quite straight forward and has not changed since 2006:

3.12.47 Knee ligaments. Candidates with any degree of instability of the collateral or cruciate ligaments of the knee joint or previous surgical repair of a cruciate ligament are graded L8 (ie unfit for Service). extract from Joint Service Publication (JSP) 346

There is reference in the JSP to assessment by a Service specialist in orthopaedics for selected candidates who have had an ACL reconstruction, however this relates to an Army study into the robustness of ACL reconstructions during Army training. The RAF is not, and has not, been involved with this study. In short, it is considered that an ACL reconstruction will probably perform perfectly adequately under normal circumstances in civilian life; however, the rigours of military service places the reconstruction and the knee joint under extra stress with the risk of further damage or premature osteoarthritis.

For more information regarding any of these areas highlighted, please contact your AFCO and they will be able to give you more detailed information regarding specific cases.

Please note that, although OASC will endeavour to answer generic questions that arise, we will not be engaging or commenting on individual cases. In those cases, the individual is advised to contact their nearest AFCO who will be able to deal with any queries. All information published is for information only.

Information regarding a career in the RAF can be found at http://www.raf.mod.uk/careers

MylesSRi

Hi

Im keen on joing the air force, ive allways wanted to since i was about four. I started flying privately when i was fourteen and have been doing so for the last five years, ive forty hours experience, 3 exams passed, i nearly have my PPL. I've friends who are airline pilots and im lucky enough to train with fulltime air ambulance pilots, so i have a good insight into the civilan professional aviation scene. However what i seem to be picking up from these pilots is that they are bored with there fulltime jobs because they spend most of their time flying on autopilot, this has made me even more keen on joining the air force because i know i will be challenged in an RAF career and it will be exciting.

My question is, are RAF sponsorhip schemes open to anyone in any university? Im trying to gain a sponsorship because obviously it will help financially but more importantly ill get a shot at applying for the RAF now as a pilot rather than having to wait two more years before i finish university. However, i seem to be getting told that i cant get one because of the university im at, anyone be able to help?

Pontius Navigator

Which university? Do they teach English?

Aerouk

I must agree with PN.

I've never ever heard an airline pilot admit this, I mean airline pilots certainly like a moan but never about just flying in autopilot all day.

If this pushes you towards the RAF, what are you going to do if you get stuck on a transport aircraft?

Anyhooo... good luck with University and the PPL

hightower1986

I am wondering if someone can help with a question? I am trying to find some information regarding the fitness test part of OASC, for the sit ups are your feet held down or are you to keep them flat on the floor?

Also from what I can find on the internet, Green level seems to be around 35 of each in one minute and ten minutes or under for the 1.5 mile run, does this sound about right? Many thanks

Aerouk

Press up scores:

http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafi...CDCD16DDD3.doc

Sit up scores:

http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafi...C02E836A9C.doc

Edit: I'm not 100% sure if they are the correct scores, maybe on of those serving or ex-serving can confirm?

Herc-u-lease

almost as funny as it was predictable

Myles, having had quick look at the RAF website, it directs you to seek the advice of the AFCO; specifically getting your hands a on a copy of PAM(AIR) 296. You didn't mention who was giving you the info that your uni is unacceptable - reliable person?. If you do not have access to a UAS at your uni or locale you may be at a disadvantage, but I don't know if it would be a show-stopper in itself.

In short, get the advice from the AFCO.

H-u-L

hightower1986

Thanks for the information Aerouk, does any one else know the "correct form" for the sit ups? On the RAF site it shows in one part the feet being held down, but i feel this is maybe inaccurate?

muppetofthenorth

It depends a lot on the PTIs on the day and what mood they're in [and you think I'm joking...].

Normally, however, it is roughly the following:

Feet shoulder width apart, knees bent at 90°. Fingers to temples, elbows to the front. All the way down until your shoulder blades hit the floor, all the way up until your elbows are on the tops of your knees. Feet held very lightly.

Aerouk

So the information is starting to come out about the shape of our military in future years, anyone wish to comment on what they think recruitment for aircrew will be like?

I imagine it will be dire, but how dire can we expect it to become?