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What will the AFPRB say this year?

Old 20th Jan 2010, 10:40
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What will the AFPRB say this year?

With inflation now at 2.9%, it will be interesting to see what they recommend.

I wonder how it will be received by Messrs Brown and Darling!
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 11:24
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They will probably use the September figure if they use one at all. They should not however look at the inflation figure but at pay comparators which might be different. As industry has lower or even negative pay increases the they may even go for near 0%.

Of course, given that the CS got 3% per year back in August ...........
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Of course, given that the CS got 3% per year back in August ...........
now you know that is an unfair (but admittedly true) comment….based on what the “MOD” CS had in the few years previous to that
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 12:54
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CS Pay Rises

"Of course, given that the CS got 3% per year back in August ..........."

Hmmm, that old chestnut - a C2 grade CS (Sqn Ldr equiv, if you like) earns less per annum than I'll be getting as my pension at 55.

As ever was, 3% of not very much = still not very much....
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"C2 grade CS Sqn Ldr equiv"

Really?
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Originally Posted by tommee_hawk View Post
"Of course, given that the CS got 3% per year back in August ..........."

Hmmm, that old chestnut - a C2 grade CS (Sqn Ldr equiv, if you like) earns less per annum than I'll be getting as my pension at 55.

As ever was, 3% of not very much = still not very much....
But it's still 3%
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Bit early to be starting this thread! Based on last year I would have thought that the questions could start around the end of March! I seem to remember that the announcement was made about 5 minutes before our 1 Apr paysheets arrived!
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The computer says 'NO'
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And I believe it was 5% on a 4-5 year deal before that. Only the deal following that one was not agree but the Unions.

Agreed 3% not based on not a lot was not a lot.

My pay was substantially more than my pension but substantially less than a Cpl .
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The South African military received a pay rise of approx 65% this year.... Don't think we will get that
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Don't think we will get that
Er, no. Even in 1979 when Mrs T got in we only had 35%. My pay went up by nearly 65% though, as I got a year's seniority and flying training pay (RIP) at about the same time. I think my pay went from £2600 to about £4300 in six weeks..

Beer was about 30p/pint, since you ask
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Airborne Artist, I remember that period with affection as well. Added to seniority increments and other factors, my pay rise over a 2 year tour was in the same %ge frame as yours. i couldn't drink it fast enough, so actually had to start saving. Something to do with marrying the OH, who alo got a lovely big pay-rise!

This time? How much money does the Govt want to spend on buying Mil votes? They might be generous, especially as a different Govt is likely to have to pick up the bill
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Personally I expect there to be a modest pay rise for the military this year.

There are 6 million voters, I mean workers, in the public sector, and the Labour party is not going to miss the chance to give them a bribe, I mean a pay rise, just before an election. Given the situation with the public finances any pay rise will have to be modest, but not so modest it is insulting - no doubt G Brown still remembers the backlash when, as chancellor, he increased old aged pensions by 50p a week.

The AFPRB is not truely independent, if you look at the first few paragraphs of any report they produce they list the constraints they have to work within, the last time it included the governments inflation target and how much extra the MOD could afford!!

It will be the 11/12 annual pay rise that will be non existant or miniscule!
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0% and we're all getting the sack.
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0% and we're all getting the sack.
Not all of us but you are correct in so much as there will many of us who will be looking for work by the end of the year.
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 19:56
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So, as per the other X-roads thread, redundancies then?

Second orderly queue please.

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0% and we're all getting the sack.

Not all of us but you are correct in so much as there will many of us who will be looking for work by the end of the year.
Well given that job security has to a certain extent probably acted as a brake on pay rises in recent years, does the downsizing of the military and redundancies mean this argument for limiting pay rises is now null and void????
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Obamas current dire approval ratings will be on the Tories minds post-election. THere is a LOT of pain coming up post election and I wouldnt be surprised to see 15-20% cut across the public sector on the day after the emergency budget. The Canadians did it, with the advent of 3% CPI gives the BOE very little wiggle room for QE and therefore funding gilt purchases. The bonds market are going to DEMAND higher yeilds and therefore rates will rise significantly without drastic action on spending. Big pain in 1st year of term, followed by 3 years of economic recovery.


I am expecting 0% this year, even if those tw*ts Labour give us a pay rise, I wouldnt be surprised to see it reversed in the emergency budget.

Lets face it, what faces us as the UK is an enormous excrement sandwich and unfortunately, we are ALL going to have to take a big bite.

Welcome back to Stagflation folks. Labour have managed it twice in a row.
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"C2 grade CS Sqn Ldr equiv"

Really?
Yes: Flt Lt is officially a "D" Grade (equivalent of JO down to Cpl). It makes managing ones CS staff somewhat unwieldy, but......

It means that a D Grade can go to the OM for Lunch.
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I am expecting 0% this year, even if those tw*ts Labour give us a pay rise, I wouldnt be surprised to see it reversed in the emergency budget.
Expect nothing then anything better is a bonus, that's my thought for this year too.
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