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Old 20th Dec 2011, 20:32
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Piggies
Air intakes / filters. The engines are in the nose
American ones with piston engines have a smooth nose

In real life they looked more "butch" than ugly. Especially the navy ones when armed up with rockets and AS-12
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In real life they looked more "butch" than ugly.
Spoken like a mother
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born one mile from Bunford lane, raised thee miles west of Bunford lane and directly under the Yeovilton flight path
I reckon I've seen more of them than most of you!
Santa even used to visit our school in one (thanks to Sharky I believe)
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Santa even used to visit our school in one (thanks to Sharky I believe)
Please tell me you still don't believe in Sharky...........
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Topflat26 ref Crossmaglen............

I remember the Argyles in Crossmaglen in 1972 and the unfortunate loss of the 3 soldiers. I believe I was the Puma tasked to recover the injured to the Belfast Hospital. One had already died before being put in the ac and the other two died in hospital. A very sad day. RIP chaps.

There is a long 'I learnt about flying from that' Puma story connected to that incident. I still think it is too early after the NI proceedings to expand on it within this forum.

I was also in Aden when 'Mad Mitch' (Col of the Argyles) did his thing! - fantastic stuff!!

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Wessex Colour Trials

I'm trying to find other pics of the trials which I'll post asap.



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More Trials

Still trying to post more than one image and not having much luck! Any ideas welcome.
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More Trials

And another.
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Last One

If memory serves me right I think it was the pale blue one that shone like a beacon at night when overflying the sodium lights.
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Point of Order on the relative speed of rotary types in NI.

Pumas certainly suited the Greens with relatively long transits. 130kts versus 100/110kts is not a huge difference, especially in S. Armagh. Had a go in a mate's Puma and was gobsmacked at how early you had to start deceleration. Wessex anticipators enabled you to flare like a good'un and shed speed far quicker than a Puma. Jungly Sea Kings were a bigger machine and only did 90kts, but you wouldn't take the piss coz they'd laughingly punch your lights out.

Did a Stanta work up once with a Puma flown by one of the rotary 'twins whose name implies good fortune'. Good example of two types complementing each other's strengths. A day long exercise was wrapped up in two hours when the DS ran out of scenarios.
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Pumas certainly suited the Greens with relatively long transits. 130kts
?????????. When I flew them you mutiplied the pitch setting by ten and that was your speed. 14.5 degrees pitch was 145 knots. I didn't realise that they had hung so many headwinds on them.
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130 kts?

The Puma trick in NI was to get the landing gear up, pull 15 degrees of collective pitch and wait for the "mutual cover" Wessex to call "Buster, buster!" (= Slow down, we can't keep up).

(This was whilst carrying ATO's trailer underslung, then it would do only 130 kts. We always carried it because the Wessex couldn't even lift the USL).

For some reason, Wessex pilots never seemed to mention the subject once on the ground again.

Yes, I know, but it was the only fun we used to get...
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque
We always carried it because the Wessex couldn't even lift the USL
Once! We did lift it once...but we had so little fuel onboard and it was swinging so much that we had to refuel at Armagh on the way to Dungannon.

Got this pic on a similar task...anybody recognise the crewman?

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I flew both aircraft in NI, loved them both, but for NI, the Wessex was the girl for me! She was just better suited to the role throughout.
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I flew both aircraft in NI, loved them both, but for NI, the Wessex was the girl for me! She was just better suited to the role throughout.
Except for underslinging work such as in the previous photo...
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Don't be daft Shy, any Wessex coud lift a strop exactly like the one in the picture.

What was the location of the Wessex doing 110Kts? Fantasy Island?

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Puma = Flying machine that can hover.

Wessex = Hovering machine that could fly.
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This was whilst carrying ATO's trailer underslung, then it would do only 130 kts.
The said USL had a published limiting speed of 70kts!
It became unstable between 75-90 knots.
The instability could be 'flown through' and out the other side by Puma.
'Allegedley'

Overtaking an empty Wessex whilst carrying ATO with a vintage car horn 'bleep-bleep' on the RT; = SH banter.

Putting said USL direct on the primary hook without strop was a major error of judgement seconded only by not returning to EGAA to attach a strop (& look daft in front of Wsx mafia) but instead fly all the way to Dungannon at 40kts. Apparently that may have happened!
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Overtaking an empty Wessex whilst carrying ATO with a vintage car horn 'bleep-bleep' on the RT; = SH banter.
Yeah, that was always a spectacularly good idea given that the button producing the "beep" is also the same button which releases the load dependant on the position of the role selector
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Now you are assuming that I meant the IFF ident button.
Never assume, because........

I meant the little hand held gadget that had many, many noises that was usually particulary annoying when laser noises abounded in crewrooms, but it also had a 'vintage car horn' noise which could be used on the RT at moments such as that described.
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