1st International Air Show and Live Fire Demonstration/Kabul Int'l Airport
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: USA
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
1st International Air Show and Live Fire Demonstration/Kabul Int'l Airport
Maybe we should start a pool on the kickoff date for the First International Air Show and Live Fire Demonstration to be held at/near Kabul International Airport (soon to renamed Osama Ben Laden Memorial Airport ). There is a wonderful restaurant guide and tourist info available from the local office of the Taliban Destinations Office. I understand there is plenty of hotel vacancies and very little if any delay in visiting local scenic spots. Travelers are advised to monitor local news broadcasts for the yet to be announced kick off of the tourist season fireworks display. Special attention is directed to the expected local population's seasonal migration to rural locations such as France, Spain, and Albania which might increase travel times on local highways. Countryside hunting trips may be booked at any US Army Recruiting office worldwide, all equipment is included in the no frills package. 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Angleterre
Posts: 252
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Yack yack said: Your sick!
Not as sick as the bloke who walked into a Mess bar and placed a box of Jenga on the bar whilst asking if anyone wanted to play NY Skyscrapers!
PS
I was at Lockerbie early the following morning and if you dont laugh you will cry, taking the puss does not mean you do not feel for the victims.
Yozzer
Not as sick as the bloke who walked into a Mess bar and placed a box of Jenga on the bar whilst asking if anyone wanted to play NY Skyscrapers!
PS
I was at Lockerbie early the following morning and if you dont laugh you will cry, taking the puss does not mean you do not feel for the victims.
Yozzer
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Heloplt,
Yes I believe that the USA may be planning the worlds biggest curry push. I thought you americans didn't like spicey food unless if is from mexico. Have a Bin Laden Bhoona for me.
Yak Yak, thats part of military life, were all sick, if you didn't laugh, as the man said you'd cry.
Don't just get mad. Get mad and get even.
Yes I believe that the USA may be planning the worlds biggest curry push. I thought you americans didn't like spicey food unless if is from mexico. Have a Bin Laden Bhoona for me.
Yak Yak, thats part of military life, were all sick, if you didn't laugh, as the man said you'd cry.
Don't just get mad. Get mad and get even.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: USA
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
At some point, we all will work our way out of mourning, each in our own way. I have been to many wakes, funerals, and memorial services that resulted from my involvement in aviation and law enforcement. The one thing that helped us through tough times was humor and this time is no different. I mourn those lost,and those that are going to be lost fighting this war but that does not mean I cannot find a way to brighten what would otherwise be a very dark day. I talked to a dear friend last night that is hands on in the recovery and identification effort of the victims at the Pentagon. If he can keep his sense of humor, we surely can. His description of the scene should be required reading for all those who doubt the need for this war against terrorism. My best laugh will be thinking of what Hosannah Been Running's face will be like when he realizes martyrdom is imminent. Sure hope he has the spirits of his convictions...cause his day is coming!
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: By the sea
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Whatever you say guys.
I work on an intensive care unit. I see people die, quite literally, every day.
I have also worked for a funeral director. That involved dead people too.
I might only be young - and thus not know much about life. But I have more than enough experience of death. It may well be a cause for laughter at times, and I find that being exposed to the fragility of mortality does increase zest for life and appreciation of everything that is good in the world.
It is never, however, a cause for jokes.
Deal with it in your way, I'll deal with it in mine.
I work on an intensive care unit. I see people die, quite literally, every day.
I have also worked for a funeral director. That involved dead people too.
I might only be young - and thus not know much about life. But I have more than enough experience of death. It may well be a cause for laughter at times, and I find that being exposed to the fragility of mortality does increase zest for life and appreciation of everything that is good in the world.
It is never, however, a cause for jokes.
Deal with it in your way, I'll deal with it in mine.
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: SW England - and happy!
Age: 51
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Yak Yak,
You said it mate - you work on an intensive care unit. You are not in the military.
You don't understand our sense of humour - the sense of humour that has allowed the British squaddie to cope with life through many harrowing times.
Being PC is all well and good but it has been crushing the Forces' spirit and sense of humour somewhat!
If you don't appreciate the humour don't read it!
You said it mate - you work on an intensive care unit. You are not in the military.
You don't understand our sense of humour - the sense of humour that has allowed the British squaddie to cope with life through many harrowing times.
Being PC is all well and good but it has been crushing the Forces' spirit and sense of humour somewhat!
If you don't appreciate the humour don't read it!
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,797
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From another thread:
Yak Yak is a 19 year old female hospital worker. Whilst not very PC the simple fact is that females run on Emotion and males run on Logic. The 2 are not compatable.
TM
Yak Yak is a 19 year old female hospital worker. Whilst not very PC the simple fact is that females run on Emotion and males run on Logic. The 2 are not compatable.
TM
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: USA
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well by golly I stand on notice....but I question a ****** that has connections to both intensive care wards and the chiller....sounds like a conflict of interest to me. Now if he would like to do private duty with O**** Why Ain't I running yet....or whatever the evil fellow's moniker is...that would probably work out.
But ease off him fellas...he is right...I am a very sick puppy....had to rethink my pos re Hosannah begin runnin' ...err...that ex-Saudi chappie in the Afgan hills....realized I was wrong to advocate bombing him....think now that the bayonet method is better...stick him above the navel and feel that quiver...and no collateral damage to worry about! Of course some PC Thought Police type will find that out of order...must remember to read the yellow card to him first...then....seek his surrender. Love the concept of taking him to a neutral muslim country....where might that be on this planet?
Any ways....ease off my detractor there...he is welcome to express his opinion...as we all are.....anyone remember the words to Arlo Guthrie's song...Alice's Restaurant? It was me and Arlo that was a-jumping up and down together...in the shrinks office!
Now I have decided to send apologies to the Taliban...we have been too hasty with our threats....it is time to send apologies....have decided how to do that...if you email me...I will send you my version for you to critique.
Pass the word....we're coming!
But ease off him fellas...he is right...I am a very sick puppy....had to rethink my pos re Hosannah begin runnin' ...err...that ex-Saudi chappie in the Afgan hills....realized I was wrong to advocate bombing him....think now that the bayonet method is better...stick him above the navel and feel that quiver...and no collateral damage to worry about! Of course some PC Thought Police type will find that out of order...must remember to read the yellow card to him first...then....seek his surrender. Love the concept of taking him to a neutral muslim country....where might that be on this planet?
Any ways....ease off my detractor there...he is welcome to express his opinion...as we all are.....anyone remember the words to Arlo Guthrie's song...Alice's Restaurant? It was me and Arlo that was a-jumping up and down together...in the shrinks office!
Now I have decided to send apologies to the Taliban...we have been too hasty with our threats....it is time to send apologies....have decided how to do that...if you email me...I will send you my version for you to critique.
Pass the word....we're coming!
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Guys, lay off Yakkers. She may be swiming against the tide on this one, but she has some experience of military life having done most of IOT, so the civvi jibes are not entirely well placed Gazeem et al. This humour isn't to her tase, fair one. She is entitled to voice her opinion as you have done with yours.
Can anyone bring me back a Talibeer?
[ 18 September 2001: Message edited by: kbf1 ]
Can anyone bring me back a Talibeer?
[ 18 September 2001: Message edited by: kbf1 ]
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Death Star
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
kbf, your Liberal party membership still up to date?
Yakkers you just don’t learn do you. Had you made it in to the military, you would understand the slanted sense of humour. Bedpans and specimen bottles........
Sense of humour is one thing but Question Time last week was a different matter!
Now then, where's my survive to fight......?
For Sale, large lake between Pakistan, Iran and China. For more details contact US DoD.
heloplt, Britain's a neutral Muslim country isn't it?
murph, just like the good old days...but where is Jeep????
[ 18 September 2001: Message edited by: Helmut Visorcover ]
Yakkers you just don’t learn do you. Had you made it in to the military, you would understand the slanted sense of humour. Bedpans and specimen bottles........
Sense of humour is one thing but Question Time last week was a different matter!
Now then, where's my survive to fight......?
For Sale, large lake between Pakistan, Iran and China. For more details contact US DoD.
heloplt, Britain's a neutral Muslim country isn't it?
murph, just like the good old days...but where is Jeep????
[ 18 September 2001: Message edited by: Helmut Visorcover ]
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Kbf,
Didn't know that IOT was anything like military life, wasn't when I did it, maybe its changed? I understand that they wear plimsoles and hard hats everywhere now.
Heloplt, stick with it fella, life is evidently to short!
Yakkers, understand where you are coming from but you are talking to the wrong audience, they ain't listening and don't need a lecture on how nasty death is at this moment in time. I imagine many of the contributors have seen plenty over the years. Though, as this is a democratic site I respect your right to say what you want.
Don't be offended, its just the way it is. It won't be very easy for people to go to war unless there is some anger and some humour ('sick' or otherwise). Just my opinion.
Didn't know that IOT was anything like military life, wasn't when I did it, maybe its changed? I understand that they wear plimsoles and hard hats everywhere now.
Heloplt, stick with it fella, life is evidently to short!
Yakkers, understand where you are coming from but you are talking to the wrong audience, they ain't listening and don't need a lecture on how nasty death is at this moment in time. I imagine many of the contributors have seen plenty over the years. Though, as this is a democratic site I respect your right to say what you want.
Don't be offended, its just the way it is. It won't be very easy for people to go to war unless there is some anger and some humour ('sick' or otherwise). Just my opinion.
There is sick humour and there is military humour. Some appear unable to differentiate between the two categories.
YY has made some good observations here - I know there are those who take the 'good 'ole boy' approach to justice and " jus' wanna' go whup they'm goddam Taliban motherf******s hard an' bring back Bin Laden in a box", but rushing in all guns blazing is not going to be the best solution. Yet.
It would be better for Bin Laden to be handed over to a country which recognises the Taliban regime. Such as Saudi Arabia, perhaps. He might then be exposed to a little Islamic justice which might possibly not be quite as sympathetic as he might expect. After, of course, providing answers to certain questions which others might care to put to him in a somewhat non-negotiable manner.
Sorry - but a very careful and measured response is needed here. We must accept that we'll have to get even, not just get mad.
YY has made some good observations here - I know there are those who take the 'good 'ole boy' approach to justice and " jus' wanna' go whup they'm goddam Taliban motherf******s hard an' bring back Bin Laden in a box", but rushing in all guns blazing is not going to be the best solution. Yet.
It would be better for Bin Laden to be handed over to a country which recognises the Taliban regime. Such as Saudi Arabia, perhaps. He might then be exposed to a little Islamic justice which might possibly not be quite as sympathetic as he might expect. After, of course, providing answers to certain questions which others might care to put to him in a somewhat non-negotiable manner.
Sorry - but a very careful and measured response is needed here. We must accept that we'll have to get even, not just get mad.
BEagle raises a very interesting point here. A recent post here on PPRuNe, dealt precisely with the issue of Shariah law in Saudi Arabia, dealing with hijacking aircraft.
The original post is at; http://www.pprune.org/cgibin/ultimat...c&f=1&t=015315
JEDDAH, 6 September — The trial of two Chechens, Leriskhan Arsaiev and Deni Magomerzaiev, who hijacked a Russian plane to Madinah earlier this year, has started in Saudi Arabia, the chairman of the Kingdom’s Supreme Judiciary Council disclosed yesterday.
Sheikh Saleh ibn Muhammad Al-Laheedan said the two defendants, who are being tried in accordance with the Shariah law, would not have defense lawyers.
“Such cases do not require a defense lawyer,” Laheedan, who is also a member of the Council of Senior Islamic Scholars, told Okaz Arabic daily.
“The hijacking occurred, the hijackers are known, and they have admitted their crime. Even assuming they had a reason (to carry out the hijacking), this in no way gave them an excuse for hijacking the plane and terrorizing its passengers,” he said. He did not say when the trial opened, but suggested a ruling was expected soon.
Sheikh Laheedan defended the Kingdom’s decision, announced Sunday by Interior Minister Prince Naif, to try the two Chechens despite a request by Russian President Vladimir Putin that they be handed over to Moscow.
There is no extradition treaty between Moscow and Riyadh.
“The crime occurred in the Kingdom, and it does not allow those who commit crimes on its territory to stand trial in another country,” Laheedan said.
A Russian hostess and a Turkish passenger died when Saudi special forces stormed the plane March 16, a day after three hijackers took over the aircraft on a flight from Istanbul to Moscow, and forced it to land in Madinah. The hijackers were demanding an end to the Russian offensive in Chechnya. The third hijacker, Soupian Arsaiev, was also killed during the operation to free the 120 passengers aboard the Vnoukovo Airlines plane.
Sheikh Saleh ibn Muhammad Al-Laheedan said the two defendants, who are being tried in accordance with the Shariah law, would not have defense lawyers.
“Such cases do not require a defense lawyer,” Laheedan, who is also a member of the Council of Senior Islamic Scholars, told Okaz Arabic daily.
“The hijacking occurred, the hijackers are known, and they have admitted their crime. Even assuming they had a reason (to carry out the hijacking), this in no way gave them an excuse for hijacking the plane and terrorizing its passengers,” he said. He did not say when the trial opened, but suggested a ruling was expected soon.
Sheikh Laheedan defended the Kingdom’s decision, announced Sunday by Interior Minister Prince Naif, to try the two Chechens despite a request by Russian President Vladimir Putin that they be handed over to Moscow.
There is no extradition treaty between Moscow and Riyadh.
“The crime occurred in the Kingdom, and it does not allow those who commit crimes on its territory to stand trial in another country,” Laheedan said.
A Russian hostess and a Turkish passenger died when Saudi special forces stormed the plane March 16, a day after three hijackers took over the aircraft on a flight from Istanbul to Moscow, and forced it to land in Madinah. The hijackers were demanding an end to the Russian offensive in Chechnya. The third hijacker, Soupian Arsaiev, was also killed during the operation to free the 120 passengers aboard the Vnoukovo Airlines plane.
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Helmut, thought you had gone off and joined a lesbian diversity farm or summink it's been so long since we last saw saw you on these hallowed pages.
For once Beages, I have to agree. Having American in (or even out)-laws I have had my fill with a foreign policy that extends no further than "we kicked ass..wuhoooo!" The US does not seem to appreciate that you cannot fight an unconventional enemy with conventional tactics. In any case, whether evidence exists that O B-L was behind this atrocity or not, tey will still lay what is left of Afghanistan to waste simply because they can. I have a olt of sympathy for the Pakistanis at the moment, they are damned if they do, and damned if they don't.
For once Beages, I have to agree. Having American in (or even out)-laws I have had my fill with a foreign policy that extends no further than "we kicked ass..wuhoooo!" The US does not seem to appreciate that you cannot fight an unconventional enemy with conventional tactics. In any case, whether evidence exists that O B-L was behind this atrocity or not, tey will still lay what is left of Afghanistan to waste simply because they can. I have a olt of sympathy for the Pakistanis at the moment, they are damned if they do, and damned if they don't.
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: A small corner of the Belgian Empire
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm with BEagle & kbf
The Septics waded into Vietnam not long after the French had the great good sense to get out, and now they propose to follow the Russians into Afghanistan. If George Dubya does initiate Operation Lynch Mob, embarking on yet another military adventure of dubious legality, he will indeed demonstrate his inability to distinguish between justice and revenge.
Rattus
[ 19 September 2001: Message edited by: Rattus ]
The Septics waded into Vietnam not long after the French had the great good sense to get out, and now they propose to follow the Russians into Afghanistan. If George Dubya does initiate Operation Lynch Mob, embarking on yet another military adventure of dubious legality, he will indeed demonstrate his inability to distinguish between justice and revenge.
Rattus
[ 19 September 2001: Message edited by: Rattus ]
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: USA
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hey kbf....have you discussed the merits of your argument with your little lady yet? The only reason you say things like this in here is she would lay a whooping on you if you talked like that around her. I wonder how this argument would sound if it had been St. Pauls , Westminster, and the Queen that had been targets....and four BA flights out of LHR and LGW. Get real folks....your turn is coming....afterall...your government is stating publically they will participate in the military operations. Reckon you can expect a Christmas card from all of these militant groups that have sworn to join in a Jihad against anyone that attacks the Taliban? As I recall...didn't the British get their ass kicked by the Afgani's as well once before???
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Age: 84
Posts: 897
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I would have thought a somewhat macabre sense of humour is essential in any armed service; certainly in my experience. It also extends to hospitals! So I understand heloplt.I have placed the odd one or two in buckets, and have enormous respect and understanding for those that are sifting the rubble in New York.
A couple of journalists wrote a book about the service humour in the Falklands, which for both of them was their first experience of working alongside any of the services.
I recall one instance of a wounded Para being attended by two medics, and he (the Para) repeated over and over that he had "lost his leg", until one of the medics told him it wasn't lost at all, it was "over there".All three ended up laughing, much to the amazement of the journo's.
As regards the US response; the target is Hydra, and George Doubyya ain't Hercules, so he had better start being accountable for anything he does.Removing Afghanistan from the map won't achieve the aim, because the Russians have already done it.There is no infrastructure left to bomb, and a million or so troops could still mis OBL.
A couple of journalists wrote a book about the service humour in the Falklands, which for both of them was their first experience of working alongside any of the services.
I recall one instance of a wounded Para being attended by two medics, and he (the Para) repeated over and over that he had "lost his leg", until one of the medics told him it wasn't lost at all, it was "over there".All three ended up laughing, much to the amazement of the journo's.
As regards the US response; the target is Hydra, and George Doubyya ain't Hercules, so he had better start being accountable for anything he does.Removing Afghanistan from the map won't achieve the aim, because the Russians have already done it.There is no infrastructure left to bomb, and a million or so troops could still mis OBL.
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: UK, when I'm not taking people on their holidays
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Despite the gun slinging rhetoric, heloplts last post raises a good point. The atrocities committed last week were of such a magnitude that it would be wrong for civilised nations not to do something decisive about it, this is not just an american issue. Bring the perpetrators to 'justice' if you want but remember these people quite happily killed themselves and THOUSANDS of innocent people- do you think being brought to court scares them? I think not. Decisive military action is required so that the perpetrators or those who are considering trying in the future are under no illusions that the civilised world will not stand for terrorism especially on this scale. Don't stick your heads in the sand just because it didn't happen at home, its just what these people want to happen. Now is the time to draw the line in the sand to stop future acts occurring.