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C130J Hercules 10th Anniversary

Old 6th Nov 2009, 15:40
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C130J Hercules 10th Anniversary

RAF News Friday Nov 6th Edition

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(Not online yet)


IN NOVEMBER 1999 the first Hercules C130J touched down at RAF Lyneham, bringing theworkhorse of the RAF into the 21st Century.

More powerful engines, digital cockpits (that sadly sounded the death knell for the engineer and navigator) and a more advanced loading system
gave it a greater capability in its essential air transport role in conflicts or disasters around the world.


Having served with distinction over the past decade (the aircraft cut its teeth in Iraq), it is presently supporting operations in Afghanistan and
will soon be deployed to the Falkland Islands.


And by 2012, when the K variant goes out of service, the C130J will hold the sole responsibility for the work of the Hercules fleet based at RAF Lyneham, in Wiltshire.

To celebrate, an oil painting was commissioned and painted by local artist K Renwick and the resulting print will be available in the SIF Shop BSW and 30 Sqn Shop
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Not seen yet, but if the last edition is anything to go by no doubt accompanied by pictures of Hastings and/or Beverleys!
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God that heap of dung 10 years old?

Took long enough for them to get it right . . .

We said in the 70's that the cheapest replacement for the Herk would be another one. They could have saved a bomb and bought new 'H' models when they were building them and update their kit.

They'd have been operational long before the Js and cost a fraction. Still, all jobs for the boys eh?
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Yeah, but it wouldnt have been anywhere near as good.

Be honest with yourself. I bet you are a Nav.
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10 years and how many upgrades?..bring on the next engine change...oh yeah I dont do that anymore.
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I bet you are a Nav
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Nope, I don't fly, I just write checklists.
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Originally Posted by Dengue_Dude View Post
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Nope, I don't fly, I just write checklists.
Eastern sea board to Lye today in less than 5 hours, probably a bit too quick for you but we, as a crew found it very satisfying
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Nope, I don't fly, I just write checklists.

Ever wondered why you no longer get invited to dinner parties..?
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10 years old and we've had about 3 good years out of them so far...
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10 years old with 15 years of fatigue!!

We need more than one replacement C130J
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Eastern sea board to Lye today in less than 5 hours, probably a bit too quick for you but we, as a crew found it very satisfying
Before I packed in, I got used to cruising at 0.83M with barely a ripple in my tea cup.

Once in Herc at FL350 over Canada (no RVSM those days), we were asked OUR mach no. - I think it was about 0.50 (with many ripples in the tea).

However, I do thank the Hercules for not needing an expensive stereo.

On balance, I'll stick to writing checklists and sleeping in my bed.

Take care guys and fly safely when you can, and cannily when you can't.
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Brrrrrrilliant! Another unscheduled meeting of the Flat Earth Society!

Once in Herc at FL350 over Canada (no RVSM those days), we were asked OUR mach no. - I think it was about 0.50 (with many ripples in the tea).
What on earth has that got to do with the price of fish? How does your jet doing 0.83M make a C130J a "pile of dung"? Similarly how does having an opinion on something in the 1970s have the same effect nearly 40 years later? On balance, I'm grateful you're sticking to writing checklists. May I suggest you also cut back on the Internet Expertery whilst you're at it too?

10 years old and we've had about 3 good years out of them so far...
I note that your location is "Oz" - interesting to note that the luddities aren't just confined to these fair shores. Can't comment on the Australians but it may distress you to know that the C130J has been the backbone of deployed UK C130 ops for the last 7 gusting 8 years.

We don't need any replacement Js, we just need the manpower, hangar space, Marshalls time and money currently being pissed away elsewhere, to be invested in maintaining what is, in my opinion, a superb aircraft. Sadly that opinion is only based on 7 years of J flying so I will happily bow to any Flt Engs, Navs, Mess Managers, Tesco checkout girls, street sweepers, double glazing salesmen, etc who can obviously offer a more informed opinion.

So, notwithstanding all the usual horseshit this subject engenders, may I pass on my congrats to all the J crews that have put up with years and years of non-stop deployments and to the "non-deployable" eng line and GEs who have kept the aircraft going in mostly ridiculous circumstances. Despite the hurdles thrown up from the most unexpected places the fleet & crews have always delivered and will continue to do so. Keep on truckin.
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Stop Start, does your jaw hurt from biting so hard?

Banter aside, I happen to agree with you and wouldn't be a bit surprised if the K goes the way of the Jag and F3 after the next election.

Now, I am going to bite myself and ask SPHLC is anybody selling this new work of art and whether or not he might know a good picture framer!!!
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Good Framing Shop?

Try the Picture Framing Workshop on Walcot Street in Bath.
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Message for 'Stopstart' . . . . !

Thanks SVK - suspect he didn't bother to look at my profile

It's like fishing with a thunderflash - no talent required.

I'm more than happy to stick to checklists, but 35 years flying does lead to just a little bit of 'expertery' unless you're a complete moron.

You can certainly suggest anything you like but it'll lead to grief for your teddy . . .

Have fun !
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You can certainly suggest anything you like but it'll lead to grief for your teddy . . .
Errr, I hardly think so chap. Unlike you, Stopstart is a highly respected operator of the aircraft and has the knowledge and expertise to refute your ill-informed and frankly, pathetic comments.

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35 years flying does lead to just a little bit of 'expertery' unless you're a complete moron.
That'll explain it then.
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but 35 years flying does lead to just a little bit of 'expertery' ......

ahhh an expert at living in the past! when rates were rates (75% for baldricks!) and VC10 capts were Sqn Ldrs!!!

The 70's and 80's are over - as is the cold war, and traveling the world on rates living in hotels.

Be that good or bad, we are where we are, and the boys and girls of the J have done, and continue to do, wonders for our troops and government (even if they don't deserve it).

All - less of the slagging of a fantastic aircraft that is very capable, and more support to our crews who are the main support of TacAT on ops please.

Oh and DD, not sure why it is valid, but since we are boasting about high and ripples.... I have had a nice cup of tea at FL390, the ripples add to the flavour and since tea doesn't make a sound through my noise reduction headset, it didn't matter how noisy the J is!

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Card 34R

Sense of Humour Circuit breaker trip.

Land as soon as possible, select crewmember, attempt 1 reset. If c/b trips again, cease banter.

Either way guys, fly safely.
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Ah, the old...say something stupid - make an @rse of yourself - get flamed - then pretend you were trying to be funny...

Very good
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