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Old 24th Oct 2009, 07:57
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MP's not wearing poppies

Just watched PM Questions in the Commons and was suprised how many MP's were not wearing poppies across the parties. Of particular note the Secretary of State for Defence, the repulsive Bob Ainsworth.

Am I alone in thinking that I expect a bit more from my government? I hope that they can sort themselves out and set an example. Thousands of pounds spent on gardening at our expense, yet you cant be arsed to spend £1 of your own money for a poppy!
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Salad Dodger, you may be surprised to know that any MP not wearing a poppy is observing the correct protocol and anyone who has been sporting one, I saw my first on Monday, is wrong.

RBL has only been distributing the boxes this week for them to go on sale from today.

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Pontius - well said, Sir

It's a shame no-one briefed CGS this week though! Take a look at the video feed at this link BBC NEWS | UK | Afghan troop reduction 'by 2014'

He was wearing his on Thursday!

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The appeal was launched on Thursday 22nd by Dame Vera Lynn. CGS was there, would have been bad form to opt out! No need to shout TODAY at me Pontious!

There was obviously access to poppies, as some of the MP's had them. All the leaders had them on and about 10% of the other MP's. I just think it should have been 100%.....
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From an older article.............

The British Legion itself says people are welcome to wear a poppy at any time, and those raising funds for the organisation often sport one year-round.
When's the right time to start wearing a poppy? - BBC Web 2006

So, there isn't really a 'protocol' for wearing poppies and to those with control issues, wishing to dictate to everyone else, I say mind your own business.

I think you expect too much of Mr Ainsworth. One of his lackeys will make sure he has one on, I'm sure.
 
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isn't really a 'protocol' for wearing poppies and to those with control issues, wishing to dictate to everyone else, I say mind your own business.
Just quoting my RBL regional coordinator.
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If they have no respect for the soldiers of the present, then they have no right to show respect to the soldiers of the past.

No politician should be wearing the Poppy, they're all a disgrace to the country.
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If they have no respect for the soldiers of the present, then they have no right to show respect to the soldiers of the past.

No politician should be wearing the Poppy, they're all a disgrace to the country
What about the of MPs who have served in the Armed Forces..?
What about the of MPs who have helped people in the Armed Forces?
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They should be shouting, but you never hear them.

Self serving to the core, the lot of them.
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You are not listening.


This took me less than a minute to find..... yuou could also discover things if you look and listen


Jonathan Djanogly, MP - Member of Parliament for the Huntingdon Constituency
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Frankly I think this whole competitive poppy wearing business has got out of hand. I haven't got one yet, and may or may not get one when I am in town this afternoon. What is certain is I will be wearing one by Remembrance Day. Making a competition about who is the first to be seen wearing a poppy has nothing to do with respect for the fallen and everything to do with one-upmanship.
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TankertrashNav,

I second that.
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Although you looked at what I wrote, I don't think you read it, PN.

There is no protocol for poppy wearing. Although the Act of Remembrance is emphasised on the traditional date of 11 Nov, the current state of affairs in Afghanistan means that, for most it is a year 'round affair. Some consideration for that should be applied with common sense in mind.

And I have to cynically agree that for some it's become a competition to be the first seen wearing one.
 
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Concur.... I'll wear one on Nov 11th
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Personally I don't see why so many people make a fuss if a politician/celebrity/newsreader etc doesn't wear a poppy.

It doesn't indicate respect, it doesn't indicate remembrance, it just indicates that the person has chucked some loose change into a collection box and pinned it to their jacket.

Personally, I remember our fallen by visiting museums, reading books, making donations etc. After that I get chastised by someone who doesn't even know what the poppy actually symbolises, but because they've paid their annual 10p to have a paper poppy on their top they're automatically superior. I wear one if I have time/come across a vendor when I'm walking down the road, but it hardly shows I'm indifferent and ignorant if I don't wear one.

Obviously this doesn't apply to those who actually wear the poppies with a recognition of our soldiers plight and the rationale behind the day.
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Some token words..........., now I'm sold!!!

They're rats from the same sewer, even if some do smell slightly better than the rest.

You need to wake up and start thinking for yourself.
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Frankly I think this whole competitive poppy wearing business has got out of hand. I haven't got one yet, and may or may not get one when I am in town this afternoon.
Ageed. I'll put mine on on Nov 1st, and take it off after Remembrance Sunday.

If you go to any TV news/live studio at this time of year you'll find a bucket of poppies outside, so that the interviewees don't look stupid. Sometimes the studio manager won't let you onto the sofa/set without one....

Wearing a poppy/wristband is in itself meaningless. If you do something for SSAFA/RBL/H4H during the year by helping with fundraising, events, a monthly DD etc. then that's far more use than a tenner in the tin once a year.
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Could be MP's poppies were from last year and claimed for on expenses?
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Think this says it all for me: The Royal British Legion - Poppy Appeal
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I will never wear a Poppy now, sadly it has become a commercial icon and a way of as this thread started out to show disgust at those in power or the media that do not wear one, without knowing whether they have donated or not or even care and support our troops, both past and present...........

It has gone from the real reason it should be worn to an emblem to be used to ostracize others in public and on the media who fail to wear one, and sadly for that reason I still chip in but decline the poppy.
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