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L-1011 in the RAF

Old 22nd Jun 2001, 20:37
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Do any of you know if the RAF has a Cargo version of an L-1011 in service or decommisioned. I have a friend at Travis AFB infoming me that he saw one land there that appeared to have the "Royal Air Force" branded on the fuselage. I am not aware of any but then again my knowledge of your fleet is limited.
Thanks for any input.
 
Old 22nd Jun 2001, 20:55
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The RAF has 9 TriStars.

3 Ex PanAm - and still in pax fit called C2's
6 EX British Airways. 4 of which are combi's in that they can be roled to carry a mixture of pax/freight or all pax/freight and operate in the Air to air refuelling role (AAR). These aircarft are called KC1's.

The other 2 TriStars are called (K1's) and are a halfway house in that they can carry pax/AAR, but not freight as the cargo holds on the ex BA aircarft now contain fuel tanks and the passengers luggage has to be loaded in special bins through the normal cabin exit doors (these aircraft were due to be converted to full KC1 spec - until the UK treasury said otherwise). Therefore these aircraft are usually used with small passenger loads because of the described luggage constraints or solely in the AAR role.

Check out http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafhome.html for more detailed information on all RAF aircraft including the exciting C17.

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Old 23rd Jun 2001, 14:09
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Dragonspit,
I think that the "Royal Air Force" title is actually painted on the TriTanics.
Unless you mean as in Brand Names for the RAF which is being debated in another thread.
 
Old 23rd Jun 2001, 17:10
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"Royal Air Force" is most definitely emblazoned on the side of its white fuselage!
 
Old 23rd Jun 2001, 20:34
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I seem to remember flying way, way back to somewhere so blunt in Saudi that they actually had desert boots and desert DPM (ah, those suppliers...) and seeing a pink 'tanic with a natty blue line. Why, exactly, did they go for that particular finish?
 
Old 23rd Jun 2001, 21:51
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The 2 'Pink Pigs' were TriStar K1 ZD949 and ZD951. When our porcine friends arrived out at KKIA during that spot of bother in 1991, our first reaction was "What the f**k!!". But the hastily applied desert pink camouflage was extremely effective. During the pre-war training period, out in OER21 I could see a white Timmy at (clasified) miles - when Pinky and Perky arrived, the effect of the tone-down was to more than halve the reflected light value. Not bad for a quickie ARTF paint job; Marshalls Aerospace worked very hard to paint the 'pigs' quickly and the aircraft provided sterling service.

My photos of the piggies (sorry, OC216) refuelling F3s were later published in AFM at the time....it all seems so long ago now!
 
Old 23rd Jun 2001, 21:58
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As a matter of interest is the L1011 that attempted an autoland (late 80's) at BZN resulting in a rearranged langing gear and wing structure still flying.

Beleived it spent quite a while in that big hangar down there
 
Old 23rd Jun 2001, 23:19
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BEagle

I was fortunate to fly on the "pigs" PINKY & PERKY during the conflict. Actually one was unkindly called Elaine after a 216 stewardess (because of the "PINKY" likeness!).

However, if you have a good air-to-air shot of a “pig” I would appreciate a copy for my web site, as I do not posses a good shot of a TriStar in the pink!

Yep, it was one of the two C2’s that was severely rearranged because of "non standard operating procedures". However, the remaining C2, the C2A (ZE706) had not been delivered from storage at the time maintained the schedule to MPA without a blemish on its record. A testament to keep ‘em flying rather than store them on the ground. Interestingly, I see on the RAF website only 8 TriStar’s are shown on strength, when the actually have 9.

What’s the latest on it’s replacement?
 
Old 23rd Jun 2001, 23:58
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I think that it's time some of my irreplaceable piccies were transferred from 35mm slide to PhotoCD. If that works out OK, I'll e-mail you a copy of a Pink Pig!

.....personally, I think that the Evo7 outside Kernahan's looks awful. Sorry!!
 
Old 24th Jun 2001, 00:08
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BEAgle

Hope the picture transfer works! Agree about the VII, I think Kernahan's are surprised, it hasn't sold by now. No offence taken, these things are all personal taste, wouldn't do for us all to be driving the same stuff!

 
Old 24th Jun 2001, 04:21
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Beags,

I understand about the pink - ours worked fine until we found on the first hop that it glowed in the dark. So the gingers went down to the souk and bought up all the black paint they could find (5 tins of enamel plus a huge amount of thinners). The resultant mottled finish worked fine - even back in NI for a while (might be what Ben Leice was on about on the Chinook thread).

No, what I was asking about was the reason for keeping the blue line. Shiny fleet indulgence?
 
Old 24th Jun 2001, 07:09
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BEagle,

If it works, could you post it on here please? Just interested!

Blue.
 
Old 24th Jun 2001, 09:58
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The blue "cheat line" was part of the original white/blue finish. I guess the it may have been the blue gloss that they though the pink wouldn't cover. Or could it be that the thought of a huge pink ***d was too much for them.

Actually I don't think that much thought went into it. It just returned from Marshals after being painted with "yard" brooms in around 4 hours. In many places the painters managed to leave much of the masking tape on. Hope the comments maybe of some use.

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Old 24th Jun 2001, 11:29
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Do I detect that another 'famous' aircraft is affectionately known as the 'Pig'



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Old 24th Jun 2001, 13:22
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Thanks to the generous help of fellow-PPRuNer 'eXtreme', hopefully there should be a piccie of a portly pink piggie below this post. Sorry about the low quality, it's a digital picture taken from a magazine print (my copyright!) rather than from the original pin-sharp Ektachrome:



Hooray - it worked! Thanks 'eXtreme'!!

Incidentally, the grubby looking place in the background is Iraq, !!


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Old 24th Jun 2001, 21:11
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Old 24th Jun 2001, 21:18
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...and the winner of his year's 'Most Succinct Post' is.........[drumroll]......BEagle!
 
Old 24th Jun 2001, 21:38
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Looks more magnolia than pink.

...........I'll get me coat
 
Old 24th Jun 2001, 21:58
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Oops! Sorry - edited everything except an errant full stop!!
 
Old 24th Jun 2001, 22:55
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M-O-T-F

You ought to have seen it when the PINK emulsion wore off and the white peaked through. Later on one sported a "RED" nose for Children In Need.

Besides Pink Pig - I think they collected a multitude of unflattering names. Mainly because of the fuselage shape............

Nice to see it with probe on though. I tanked once off a "10" on a southerly trail.



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