Territorial Army tng binned "temporarily" to save £ - Could We Save Money Other Ways?
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What could the Gov't cut to save money?
Unbelievable logic, if ever an outfit has shown it's worth over the last few years - it's the Auxiliary forces backing up the full-timers. What a kick in the goolies for all those who are SO committed.
This is a crying shame.
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The Green Slime are certainly in the "special needs" category from my limited experience... perhaps its because of the number of snooker tables that were requisitioned in WW2 to make their mess kit...
Heard on the grapevine that anyone who's specialist (whether special needs or not) would be exempt - which actually means that of the possible stupid decisions, this is one of the more sensible.
Doesn't make it right, however.
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The Green Slime are certainly in the "special needs" category from my limited experience... perhaps its because of the number of snooker tables that were requisitioned in WW2 to make their mess kit...
Heard on the grapevine that anyone who's specialist (whether special needs or not) would be exempt - which actually means that of the possible stupid decisions, this is one of the more sensible.
Doesn't make it right, however.
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Level 3 MATT is 10 mins training on Wpn system followed by a WHT and BCD (Battlefield Casualty Drills) up to Drill 5 (Bleeding drill), also includes Fitness. Level 3 MATT is for non-deployable personnel based in HQ's. TA should be carrying out Level 2 MATT.
If this is the case at least they will get their Bounty. (But if all training is binned, how will they achive Level 3)
Level 3 MATT is 10 mins training on Wpn system followed by a WHT and BCD (Battlefield Casualty Drills) up to Drill 5 (Bleeding drill), also includes Fitness. Level 3 MATT is for non-deployable personnel based in HQ's. TA should be carrying out Level 2 MATT.
If this is the case at least they will get their Bounty. (But if all training is binned, how will they achive Level 3)
>How much have the new glass cockpit grobs just cost us for the UAS's and ACO? Is this fleet really giving us value for money for what it returns?<
The ACO Vigilants were introduced in 1988 and certainly don't have glass cockpits, alas.
The ACO Vigilants were introduced in 1988 and certainly don't have glass cockpits, alas.
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The recent conflicts have shown that one area that the army is lacking in is reconstruction troops that can go into a town or village and rebuild the infrastructure. Would this not be an ideal role for the TA? Already a significant proportion of TA are brickies, electricians, plumbers - all just the skills needed.
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The Grob Tutors definitely do not have glass cockpits! We get a good return from them as all elementary pilot training is carried out on them. They do not just belong to the UASs - all RAF trainee pilots fly them before going on to rotary / multi / fast jet training.
As for the cost, well, they're owned by RBS - so we haven't laid down a pile of cash. Not sure what the annual "rent" works out at, but it's not going to be a huge sum in terms of potential savings...
The Grob Tutors definitely do not have glass cockpits! We get a good return from them as all elementary pilot training is carried out on them. They do not just belong to the UASs - all RAF trainee pilots fly them before going on to rotary / multi / fast jet training.
As for the cost, well, they're owned by RBS - so we haven't laid down a pile of cash. Not sure what the annual "rent" works out at, but it's not going to be a huge sum in terms of potential savings...
I think rigger is referring to the new cockpit grob, now complete with MFDs that is in no way, shape, or form destined for the UAS or the ACO in the immediate future, but rather to train our baby pilots in the way of the glass cockpit in the EFT system....
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That is what DFiD are meant to do - once the situation is stable enough. What is the point of reconstruction if, as soon as your back is turned, it is blown up again (granted, that has not happened to the Dam .... yet!).
one area that the army is lacking in is reconstruction troops
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One reason that there is no money is that between July 1999 and March 2002 Mr Brown sold 60% of the UK's Gold Reserves at an average price of $280 per Oz.
The closing price of Gold on Friday was $1053 per Oz.
The closing price of Gold on Friday was $1053 per Oz.
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Issue these instead of expensive simulators Apache 3 Ch RC Helicopter
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Isn't it time we binned the MOD provided vehicle for everyone except say the Stn Cdr. Each Sqn Boss having a car provided smacks to me of a long gone age where most families did not have 2 cars. That is certainly not the case these days, so why can't the Boss use his own car like the rest of us. As for some of the other sections that seem to have a section run-around, some of them really are taking the piss.
While we don't have that many Stns or Sqns left, I am sure there is scope to save a fair bit of money.
While we don't have that many Stns or Sqns left, I am sure there is scope to save a fair bit of money.
In virtually any civilian organisation, an executive of status equivalent to a Wg Cdr / Lt Col / Cdr would be entitled to a company car, and a nice one to boot. It's not just about tax efficiency, it's also about credibility - and if that's not the case, why do even left-wing politicians get driven around in Jaguars? It's laughable that we find it appropriate to lend a Vauxhall Corsa to officers with 15-20 years' service who are reponsible for 200+ individuals. It's even more ridiculous to think that a Stn Cdr, who in some cases can be responsible for over 3,000 personnel, gets an Astra saloon! While most officers of such rank probably do have 2 cars at home, who's to say that they have to be "good" cars? Some choose to spend their money on their families rather than on a slick set of wheels. Could an AOC order one of his Sqn bosses to ditch the child-vomit-stained 1998 Renault MPV and buy a Merc instead if it was thought to be giving a bad impression? I don't think we should cut the MOD-provided cars!
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In virtually any civilian organisation, an executive of status equivalent to a Wg Cdr / Lt Col / Cdr would be entitled to a company car, and a nice one to boot.
It could make more sense for MoD to contract with a car hire operator to provide a rental fleet on the base, which can be booked and used for official and private use, at contract rate for official bookings. The hire charge then comes from that squadron/unit's transport budget, just like air/rail travel. My guess is that such a budget does not exist at that level, though, but that's how it would be on Civvy Strasse.