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Old 11th Mar 2009, 13:43
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I've seen the Imprezza used, it replaced a white BMW 3-Series at the airfield I've visited on occasion.
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Old 11th Mar 2009, 14:38
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YouTube - U-2S/TU-2S Surveillance and Reconnaissance Spy Plane

And this is how it should be done.
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This is intriguing -

YouTube - Venezuela F-16 hunting USAF U-2

- any Spanish speakers care to translate what is being said?
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Old 11th Mar 2009, 18:23
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Here's another U-2 link - a story about landing after a flameout
Above & Beyond: I Have a Flameout | Military Aviation | Air & Space Magazine#

About the the chase car, the article says:

"Because control at low speed was marginal and landing required a full stall, all landings were assisted by another U-2 pilot driving a Chevrolet El Camino with a souped-up engine. The driver raced down the runway behind the landing airplane, radioing height information: “One foot…six inches…hold it off…. Good touchdown!”
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Old 11th Mar 2009, 23:44
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An El Camino?! I used to drive one of those - a '73, with a couple hundred thousand miles on the clock. I suspect the writer means a Chevy Camaro...

.....something like this:
Third-generation Chevrolet Camaro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

.....compared to something like this:
Chevrolet El Camino - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But I would be mighty impressed if someone has a picture of an El Camino chasing a U-2 to prove me wrong!
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Old 12th Mar 2009, 03:30
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I can see the AF buying a few 450 horse El Caminos to chase a U-2.
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Old 12th Mar 2009, 04:16
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Wouldn't it have been cheaper and easier to have fitted the U2 with a nose-mounted video camera and some sort of "parking sensor" arrangement for the last few feet?

Or how about a Concorde droop-snoot?
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Old 12th Mar 2009, 08:06
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Guess you could fit a camera on the nose but much more fun screaming down the runway in someone else's car. Spent a day with U2 guys on a detachment once. Surreal experience seeing a guy in a spacesuit being lifted out of the cockpit after a x hr mission.
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Perhaps they should send them on a gliding course to practise first.
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Old 12th Mar 2009, 12:25
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"An El Camino?! I used to drive one of those - a '73, with a couple hundred thousand miles on the clock. I suspect the writer means a Chevy Camaro..."
No, I had a ride in one at Alconbury, a frightening experience to say the least, as your brain is convinced that you are pulling into the path of the approaching aircraft.

It was a El Camino for sure and I remember that the driver said that it was very underpowered, I think the 396 cu inch version??

The vehicles that carried the "pogos" were BL Sherpa pickups.

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Old 12th Mar 2009, 13:30
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From Hemmings Motor News: Radio Flyer

"It's not any old vehicle that the United States Air Force uses to chase their single-seat TR-1 and U-2S high-altitude tactical reconnaissance planes. This Mustang LX 5.0L's direct predecessors were 1980s El Caminos stuffed full of 396 cu.in. big-block"
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Old 12th Mar 2009, 14:14
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I remember the Dragon Lady chase El Camino's at Alconbury back in the 1980's...

Could have sworn one of the guys there said they had 402's or 454's in them though.....
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When the RAF pilots were trained in them, did the RAF also provide the 'chase car'? What was it ... a Morris Minor, perhaps a Vauxhall Viva, or maybe an Austin Allegro?
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Old 12th Mar 2009, 16:29
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A certain USAF base used an AMG as the chase car.

Got a trip in it up the main rainway.

Now, I never knew you could do the FOD check at 155mph .....

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Now, I never knew you could do the FOD check at 155mph .....
He wasn't doing a FOD check...it was a temperature check! By the way, you can't believe how hot the runways get. I know of one individual who tore the oil pan off of a Camaro due to crossing a E-28 type arresting barrier on a 130+ degree day...bounced up after front wheels crossed. Took over a month to receive a new one from stateside.

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But I would be mighty impressed if someone has a picture of an El Camino chasing a U-2 to prove me wrong!
El Camino was used as chase car, at one time, followed by Mustang 5.0 and then a Camaro...in that order. BMW used in one island location...maybe still? Several other autos here and there...some used legally others not so legally? Had a Navy Captain pissed about a red Ferrari (Sicilian-owned) chasing a Duece on his runway! Somebody forgot to ask permission...had to do with the "it's better to ask for forgiveness" but it still didn't work!

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Old 12th Mar 2009, 19:04
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I've seen them use Subaru Impreza Turbo's to talk him down from - it must have seemed strange for the Americans to find themselves in a car that corners as well as going bloody fast!
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"Wouldn't it have been cheaper and easier to have fitted the U2 with a nose-mounted video camera and some sort of "parking sensor" arrangement for the last few feet?

Or how about a Concorde droop-snoot?"

You have to remember the plane was designed over 50 years ago! As to a drooping nose, it doesn't sit that high off the ground so there isn't much room to droop. Plus the goal was to make the plane as light as possible. Every pound saved was worth some number of feet higher ceiling. Kelly carried this to an extreme when he designed the SR-71 with external starters.
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That is just farking perfect.
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Awesome - pleased to be proved wrong and glad to know that I was not driving the preferred ride of '80s landscape gardeners and stoners who couldn't decide if they wanted a car or a truck, but a vehicle that played an integral role in the demolition of the Iron Curtain.
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