RAF Finningley AAITC
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Dengue
Your the man! I forgot the bit where I went back as an instructor three years later (same time as you!) and they were still at it then!
Memories going, it's my age!
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TG
Your the man! I forgot the bit where I went back as an instructor three years later (same time as you!) and they were still at it then!
Memories going, it's my age!
regards
TG
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What do they say?
'The apple never falls far from the tree'.
I suspect he's intimate with some of those mentioned therefore has to open a different rule book to 'protect' them.
Had they been reasonable of course, he wouldn't have to would he?
There must be a QR to cover that somewhere . . .
'The apple never falls far from the tree'.
I suspect he's intimate with some of those mentioned therefore has to open a different rule book to 'protect' them.
Had they been reasonable of course, he wouldn't have to would he?
There must be a QR to cover that somewhere . . .
Clearly you've never met that utter dork Hyrt Pzodrr of the Transylvanian Air Force then?
Asterisks and letters are not quite the same!
PS - Apologies to anyone actually named Hyrt Pzodrr!
Asterisks and letters are not quite the same!
PS - Apologies to anyone actually named Hyrt Pzodrr!
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Asterisks and letters are not quite the same!
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If you're talking about Hugh Pender, why fart about with asterisks - just say so. (see my post above 'Naming names')
Fortunately I was one of HIS instructors and all he was around me was quite ambitious which was no reason to 'down him'.
What he did afterwards I only know by heresay (not heresy!).
It sounds as if he was impressively unimpressive, sadly often the case with our branch leaders with one or two notable exceptions. These were 'exceptional' and an absolute pleasure to work for - Paul Woodman for one and Vic Farci for another to name but two.
Am I allowed to name names if I'm saying good stuff, or am I to protect people who were a credit to their trade as well as the tossers?
Fortunately I was one of HIS instructors and all he was around me was quite ambitious which was no reason to 'down him'.
What he did afterwards I only know by heresay (not heresy!).
It sounds as if he was impressively unimpressive, sadly often the case with our branch leaders with one or two notable exceptions. These were 'exceptional' and an absolute pleasure to work for - Paul Woodman for one and Vic Farci for another to name but two.
Am I allowed to name names if I'm saying good stuff, or am I to protect people who were a credit to their trade as well as the tossers?
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charliegolf which course?
Mike was our Flight Commander back in the double digit days of 91. Best memory of him was on a graduation night - the late part!!, he didn't fancy what was intended for him and when trying to get him out of the No 2 mess he decided that he was taking the bannister with him. Also believe he was something to do with a certain Puma round about the Falklands time.
Total reversal to one of the other Flight Commanders there at the time - loved stabbing everyone in the back - prompted the new call during Mad Trap for the "Power - Mad" call
Regarding Hags Dyke etc IIRC we got dropped off at Bainbridge dis Great Whernside - Buckden Pike and on the Hags Dyke and Kettlewell
Mike was our Flight Commander back in the double digit days of 91. Best memory of him was on a graduation night - the late part!!, he didn't fancy what was intended for him and when trying to get him out of the No 2 mess he decided that he was taking the bannister with him. Also believe he was something to do with a certain Puma round about the Falklands time.
Total reversal to one of the other Flight Commanders there at the time - loved stabbing everyone in the back - prompted the new call during Mad Trap for the "Power - Mad" call
Regarding Hags Dyke etc IIRC we got dropped off at Bainbridge dis Great Whernside - Buckden Pike and on the Hags Dyke and Kettlewell
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Was lucky to see FYY as one of the last ITC's there. Still did run/swims and even run/swim/runs if we were feeble in the pool. No ditch runs or cardiac hill(H&S started getting their teeth into the system by then).
On top of a windy hill during Border Patrol a Puma came a flying by. Passed us at a great rate of knots. It then did a quick about turn and came by with the door open, LM at the door-black visor down to protect the innocent and gesticulating appropriately to the DS. A mixture of a Nazi Sieg Heil and a handy shandy.
Suffice to say the exercise was paused due to the course "corpsing". Never did find out who the LM was but it brightened up the week!!
On top of a windy hill during Border Patrol a Puma came a flying by. Passed us at a great rate of knots. It then did a quick about turn and came by with the door open, LM at the door-black visor down to protect the innocent and gesticulating appropriately to the DS. A mixture of a Nazi Sieg Heil and a handy shandy.
Suffice to say the exercise was paused due to the course "corpsing". Never did find out who the LM was but it brightened up the week!!
Konfused,
You're spot on and I'm Konfused: I finished 93, having hurt my knee on the dales bit of 91. Evans made more of an impression in 4 weeks than whoever was the boy on 93. I think his first name was Barry. Pennington?
Derek ? Devitt was the HSO, and McClaren played the hardie but was an ok guy I thought.
CG
You're spot on and I'm Konfused: I finished 93, having hurt my knee on the dales bit of 91. Evans made more of an impression in 4 weeks than whoever was the boy on 93. I think his first name was Barry. Pennington?
Derek ? Devitt was the HSO, and McClaren played the hardie but was an ok guy I thought.
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Y'all go on about X,Y and Z and the AAITC experience.
It made you what you are today: OK, it may have been namby pamby girly tough, but you started out as a bunch of wet behind the ears civvies, or "I'm a Cpl , JT with attitude" and you came out of it balanced, like all aircrew.
You were put through it to join the elite group, band of brothers, who are aircrew.
Manuel Elcock, Air Eng Stude at FY: he was sat beside me in Dom climbing through FL280 when the right fire warning went off. Manuel, slightly stunned, as I through the shutdown, slapped my hand as I reached for the engine bleed, and very quietly said "My job" as he switched it off. Classic.
Y'all came out of it well :-)
It made you what you are today: OK, it may have been namby pamby girly tough, but you started out as a bunch of wet behind the ears civvies, or "I'm a Cpl , JT with attitude" and you came out of it balanced, like all aircrew.
You were put through it to join the elite group, band of brothers, who are aircrew.
Manuel Elcock, Air Eng Stude at FY: he was sat beside me in Dom climbing through FL280 when the right fire warning went off. Manuel, slightly stunned, as I through the shutdown, slapped my hand as I reached for the engine bleed, and very quietly said "My job" as he switched it off. Classic.
Y'all came out of it well :-)
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Close, but no cigar. To put the record straight... As an SAC Super-Duper Airborne Trooper without even the tiniest superiority complex 
I went through a "namby pamby girly tough" course and came out of it still somewhat unbalanced... 
It made you what you are today: OK, it may have been namby pamby girly tough, but you started out as a bunch of wet behind the ears civvies, or "I'm a Cpl , JT with attitude" and you came out of it balanced, like all aircrew.
I went through a "namby pamby girly tough" course and came out of it still somewhat unbalanced...
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On the ITC, grassing each other up is taught in the last week. By then, you know if you've passed or not, so aren't paying attention in class.
More realistically, the 33 Sqn cabs were usually minging- you'd have to be close to read the reg through the soot.
CG
More realistically, the 33 Sqn cabs were usually minging- you'd have to be close to read the reg through the soot.
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you just have written down the reg, rung Odiham and got them to check the Auth sheets for you?
Happy days
I was on 30 course, Jim Mutsaars was our Flt Cdr, I do remember Hag Dyke but cannot remember being "beasted". Boring lectures on service writing etc spring to mind and the PE every morning, but I did need it! It only lasted for six weeks and we did have some pretty girls on LM training, some very witty AEops and six FE's who were good friends. I must have been lucky, and I still have a job as an FE!!
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You prob won't believe it, but I think we shared the room at Swinderby for the first 6 weeks.
You prob won't believe it, but I think we shared the room at Swinderby for the first 6 weeks.
I do remember Hag Dyke
Assuming such a thing is actually possible...
