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Sex and the Naval Aviator - Video

Old 13th Jan 2009, 21:16
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Sex and the Naval Aviator - Video

Hi all,

Although this looks like a raunchy thread - regrettably, it is not.....boo hiss yah!

'Sex and the Naval Aviator' was the title given to a couple of 'human factors' presentations given by Capt Frank Dully, a US Naval flight surgeon. Dully was the one who coined the term 'failing aviator' (amongst others) and is often thought of as one of the 'founding fathers' of human factors/CRM; his insightful approach and observations are most thought-provoking.

Does anyone know from where I can get a copy of these presentations? I believe there are 2 talks, each about 55 mins long, which were given to US flight crews in 1980s.

The videos are mentioned on the Transport Canada's website for HF/CRM video resources but, sadly, they say they no longer have copies. I have also tried RAF/Mil Flight Safety bods at Northolt -no answer. Any leads gratefully received.

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ps Many ex mil crews out there will have seen the well-received video 'The Failing Aviator' which is delivered along the same lines (this time, given by a USAF Lt Col) but it is based on Frank Dully's work.
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Sex and the Naval Aviator - Video
Isn't this a gay movie?
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It wouldn't necessarily be a gay movie but it would certainly be very short.
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Does it involve beach volleyball and arguments in the showers?
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Think this is the one where one of the warning signals that a 'failing aviator' sends out is if he turns up for work in a yellow Porsche..


Any yellow Porsche owners out there care to comment?
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Would a metallic grey one be ok?
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Have you tried the US Navy? The US embassy in London might help.
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Thanks - I hadn't thought of US Embassy (but I have tried other USN contacts, still awaiting a reply, of course).
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Will Guards Red with pin-stripe upholstery suit you, sir?
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Flipster,

I saw that vid back in the 90s. It was on an RAF Flt Safety CSE and portrayed the aforementioned USAF Col. He was, as I recall, a psychiatrist/turned pilot/turned/er, something else probably.

Fascinating. Didn't stop me killing my wife and burying her under the new patio. Along with the others. Which was nice.

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You are probably referring to the 'failing aviator' video, which is still in circulation. That particular presentation was the one given the USAF 'half-bird'. However, the 'Sex and the Naval Av8r' vids that I'm after are earlier ones given by the originator of the terms 'rogue aviator', 'distressed aviator' and, of course, 'failing aviator' - a Capt F Dully USN.

Have heard back from The States - many people have seen the presentations - just no-one has a copy - bvgger!

If you've seen the failing aviator, at least now you'll know why you killed the missus - so think yourself lucky!!!
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Interestingly, I have had more emails from the states - some of those that had seen these vids (or had the presentation direct) thought they were better than the failing av8r one. Particulary, their wives who got to understand what made their aviator husbands tick and why they were 'difficult' sometimes - apparently it saved a number of marriages!

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flipster.

If you ever get hold of of the failing aviator vid, please let me know. It's CRM gold dust, and valid for any pilot, regardless of what you fly. Cheers
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I have the Failing Aviator as VCD or Mpeg (650Mb)
It isn't great quality video, but the audio is fine.
Who would like it, and how can I dist it online?
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Tourist,

Watched the video a few years ago on a course and would love to get hold of a copy. No idea how to put it on-line - bit of a computer biff!

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Tourist, stick it on YouTube, should annoy the yanks, would be interested to see how long it stays there. Flip - I've also hunted for those presentations you mentioned after you helped me out before but, alas, have so far been unsuccessful.
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At over an hour, it is far too long for YouTube, looking into seeding it as a torrent.






OK, it would appear that torrents are beyond my capability. Any ideas?

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Don't know how to, but I've seen long videos split into multiple bits to go onto YouTube.
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TVM M8! I have a few contacts out in the States who are working on it. Will let u know how it goes.

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Shuffle/Tourist/Monty - PM me - I have a copy of FA and 'Distractions' that I can copy (in return for a suitable donation to RAFBF).
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Most of "The Failing Aviator" now on you tube, having a bit of trouble with the end due to poor video quality, working on it.

YouTube - Failing aviator episode 1
YouTube - Failing aviator episode 2
YouTube - Failing aviator Episode 3
YouTube - Failing aviator Episode 4
YouTube - Failing aviator Episode 5
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