Gays in the RAF
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While we are on the subject of sex, has the RAF decided that relations between officers and ORs are in fact normal? I recall a very severe CO RNEFTS at Leeming telling us that under no circumstances were we to "step out" with WAAF ORs.
Didn't stop Midshipman ****** from enjoying the simultaneous and highly intimate attention of two WAAF stewards at about 0500 after a course leaving bash
Didn't stop Midshipman ****** from enjoying the simultaneous and highly intimate attention of two WAAF stewards at about 0500 after a course leaving bash
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While we are on the subject of sex, has the RAF decided that relations between officers and ORs are in fact normal?
I had a mate that a few here probably know that was stationed at Odiham with me. He met a very nice young lady who, unfortunately, was an officer nurse in Aldershot. In the end there was no choice but to throw one of the two perfectly good careers out of the window because of this little inconvenience. Sue chose to pitch her career... Sucked really...
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There was a WRAF fg off who brought a J/T to the Summer Ball. He was very proper, DJ and all. Later she said she did not realise that it was infra dig as no one had mentioned it at Cranditz.
It was the mess staff that complained and as a result a whole new lesson was added at IOT.
It was the mess staff that complained and as a result a whole new lesson was added at IOT.
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In the Dark Blue it was quite acceptable, and if an officer wanted to take a Jenny Wren to a Wardroom function, she had to go to see the OC WRNS beforehand to be told how to behave and not to tell all her muckers how their leaders behaved during/after the meal. Which of course they all followed to the letter 
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The PO Wren Reg who worked for me was married to an officer submariner; she never had any problems from the Navy attending formal functions or sorting out his admin for him when he was away; the Navy seemed to have a more mature understanding of these things than the Army.
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I was told of the story about a JO who was engaged to an airwoman... All very discrete and above board. That is until he wrote to the PMC asking for permission to bring his fiancee as his guest to the Summer Ball. Unfortunately, the airwoman worked directly for the PMC, and the said Wg Cdr refused permission.
This upset the JO, so with fiancee permission, he drove into town and hired two lady "escorts" for the night who, with great pleasure, he introduced to the PMC and his party during the evening - casually mentioning the lady's occupations and that he had brought them along for company as he had been denied his true lady for the evening. I do not know the outcome, but I imagine a fun "next day" was had by all.
This upset the JO, so with fiancee permission, he drove into town and hired two lady "escorts" for the night who, with great pleasure, he introduced to the PMC and his party during the evening - casually mentioning the lady's occupations and that he had brought them along for company as he had been denied his true lady for the evening. I do not know the outcome, but I imagine a fun "next day" was had by all.
Slight tangent, I used to work with a bloke who was ex-REME, and we used to swap stories and moans all the time. I started greeting him in the morning as "Grunt" and he would reply "Crab". One morning he called me "Fairy" as he'd found out that aircraft avionics techs were always refered to as Fairies, and promptly got a talking to by the boss! We both had to explain to the boss that no, it wasn't homophobic, discriminatory etc.
It's just banter and I am proud to have been a fairy, even if I have to explain it to people.
It's just banter and I am proud to have been a fairy, even if I have to explain it to people.
Good job you weren't a lecky, or said boss may have called the RSPCA...
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At Waddo there was a member of aircrew some 40 years ago, and who is still on the go, who married a telephonist. The system was so obstructive that even after she left the RAF she never set foot in the Mess.
At Waddo there was a member of aircrew some 40 years ago, and who is still on the go, who married a telephonist. The system was so obstructive that even after she left the RAF she never set foot in the Mess.
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At Waddo there was a member of aircrew some 40 years ago, and who is still on the go, who married a telephonist
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I recently left after 37 years driving various airframes around the skies. My philosophy [and that of most of my friends and aquaintences] was simple - I don't care about your religion, colour, sexuality or politics - just don't shove it in my face and demand that I accept it. If you told me that you were gay I would probably avoid you like the plague - not because of the sexual aspect, but because you obviously have a big issue with it if you want to talk about it. And thereafter it would colour my perception of everything you say or do. That's just the way it is. Tough. And I venture to suggest that a sizeable chunk of those serving feel the same way. I am sure I served alongside some that were homosexual - they just didn't announce it.
Shoving it in your face would include introducing your partner to the Station Commander and his wife. Since he has attained that rank and position, he has been in for some years - long before the acceptance of homosexuality was foist upon the Forces - and he may well feel embarrased. Not the thing to do to your Commanding Officer. Like it or not, that's just the way it is.
The only sensible way to deal with this is to keep your mouth shut and get on with life. You will be accepted as the person you appear to be.
If you want to go on a gay crusade, don't join the Forces.
Shoving it in your face would include introducing your partner to the Station Commander and his wife. Since he has attained that rank and position, he has been in for some years - long before the acceptance of homosexuality was foist upon the Forces - and he may well feel embarrased. Not the thing to do to your Commanding Officer. Like it or not, that's just the way it is.
The only sensible way to deal with this is to keep your mouth shut and get on with life. You will be accepted as the person you appear to be.
If you want to go on a gay crusade, don't join the Forces.
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Good evening Ladies and Gentlemen. On topic with this thread, I am a 21 Yr old Hermaphrodite on the verge of joining the RAF as a Pilot. I am due to start IOT soon. I would like to take some of your time to ask if I should openly say that I am an Hermaphrodite to my new work colleagues. If I make it to the front line as a single seat Hermaphrodite Pilot, which is my hope, what sort of attitude do you think I could expect from a very male orientated profession? Is there still a very much an anti Hermaphrodite attitude or will I be accepted for who I am. I am very much looking forward to the training, maybe not so much the initial 30 odd weeks at IOT, but once I start flying it will be my dream come true.
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Good evening Ladies and Gentlemen. On topic with this thread, I am a 21 Yr old Hermaphrodite on the verge of joining the RAF as a Pilot. I am due to start IOT soon. I would like to take some of your time to ask if I should openly say that I am an Hermaphrodite to my new work colleagues. If I make it to the front line as a single seat Hermaphrodite Pilot, which is my hope, what sort of attitude do you think I could expect from a very male orientated profession? Is there still a very much an anti Hermaphrodite attitude or will I be accepted for who I am. I am very much looking forward to the training, maybe not so much the initial 30 odd weeks at IOT, but once I start flying it will be my dream come true.
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Good evening Ladies and Gentlemen. On topic with this thread, I am a 21 Yr old Hermaphrodite on the verge of joining the RAF as a Pilot. I am due to start IOT soon. I would like to take some of your time to ask if I should openly say that I am an Hermaphrodite to my new work colleagues. If I make it to the front line as a single seat Hermaphrodite Pilot, which is my hope, what sort of attitude do you think I could expect from a very male orientated profession? Is there still a very much an anti Hermaphrodite attitude or will I be accepted for who I am. I am very much looking forward to the training, maybe not so much the initial 30 odd weeks at IOT, but once I start flying it will be my dream come true.