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Old 27th Sep 2008, 08:07
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Heir Force One

Also known as One's Air Force.....

Torygraph: Queen prepares to review designs for 'Heir Force One'

The Queen will review designs for her own £7 million private jet next week, the first of her 50-year reign, it has emerged. Four firms have been approached to build the executive aircraft and are expected to submit their bids on Wednesday.

The Queen is reported to have taken a close personal interest in the new jet's design. It will seat up to 13 people and is likely to include reclining seats embroidered with the royal crest. There is also rumoured to be plans for a compartment on board the craft for The Queen's beloved corgis.

A source told The Sun: "For the first time in her 50-year reign, Her Majesty has decided to buy her own plane. It will be exclusively for her use and that of the Royal Family. She has taken a very personal interest in its design and it's fair to say it will be far from an ordinary aircraft – it will be literally fit for a Queen."

The scheme for an executive aircraft was proposed in the Gershon review into government efficiency and announced in June.

The Queen shares the use of VIP jets with the Prime Minister and senior ministers and travel clashes has often meant she and other royals have been forced to hire other planes at significant cost. Last year, the Royal Family spent £5.5million on official travel, much of it on charter aircraft.

The source added: "From the public's point of view it's good news, as it will save taxpayers' cash. It will be used on official public engagements and be far better value for money."

Learjet, Raytheon Hawker, Cessna Citation and Gulfstream, were the firms chosen to submit their concepts.

The financing of the deal is not yet clear. The Royal Family may buy the plane outright, or it could be funded by the government. Republican critics have referred to the aircraft as Heir Force One.

A Buckingham Palace spokesman said: "The Queen has put this out to tender. The jet will be solely for the Royal Family for official engagements."
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In other words to you Brown...... well done boss.








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The Queen shares the use of VIP jets with the Prime Minister and senior ministers and travel clashes has often meant she and other royals have been forced to hire other planes at significant cost. Last year, the Royal Family spent £5.5million on official travel, much of it on charter aircraft.
Where does it say on 32[Royal] Sqn minister / PM ??

Betty should take priority over some little money grabber. After all its her train set. She just lets them play with it now and again.
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The Queens S76 visited our town earlier this year, as Princess Anne was doing several engagements in the Borders that day. I went to take some pics of the aircraft and had a good long chat with the crew. One thing that came up was at that time, they were looking to buy a new helicopter, and they were going to get more for the old one than they paid for it, so I would assume it would be a good investment. Hope they paint it in that lovely Maroon colour.
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Just don't let HRH Prince Charles try to fly it.....


Maybe Wills or HarryH could get type rated on it, once they've passed all 14 CAA exams first, of course...
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Just don't let HRH Prince Charles try to fly it.....

No chance,it's not organic!
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HM is worth every single penny. As opposed to the current government who are not worth the steam off my p1ss.
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7 Million Sterling? Seating capacity for 13? Not going to get much jet for that sort of money, unless it's for the interior decoration only of course!
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Where on earth does she think she will get the money to fund this wasteful project? Shame on her
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She has taken a very personal interest in its design
Would that be like which NACA airfoil delivers the most fuel efficient transonic cruise and whether the deep stall characteristics of a high tail plus the associated empenage mounting complexity outweigh the benefits of the cleaner air control functions? Or would that be shagpile or carpet tiles type of design interest? The Sun makes her sound like she's up in the attic of Buck house with a Blueprint and a Sharpie.

...and at least Raytheon Hawker allow some vestige of British design to continue, however distant it may be these days.

Where on earth does she think she will get the money to fund this wasteful project? Shame on her
If you don't know where the Queen gets her money from by now you haven't really been paying attention.
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So, HM The Queen is putting her hand in her pocket and paying for something that will benefit the country.

That's leadership.


Discuss.











I dare anyone to.

My only caveat. The Captaincy and Crew of the aircraft MUST be serving members of HM Forces.
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Per head the royals are already 17 times more expensive than MPs. The British monarchy is tens of millions of pounds more expensive than comparable elected heads of state in Europe. This constant demand for more public funding is outrageous.

Britain is facing serious financial challenges, people are losing their jobs, the country is getting heavily into debt, yet all the Queen can think about is grabbing more of our hard earned cash.


The true total cost of the monarchy to taxpayers is above £150m a year, equivalent to over 8000 new nurses, 7000 new police officers or 15 new schools
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Originally Posted by Always a Sapper
In other words to you Brown...... well done boss.





Originally Posted by Always a Sapper
( the closest I could find to the right smilie.... wrong didgit, but I guess you know what I mean)

I think you mean this:
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It's about bloody time that HRH E-II had a proper dedicated aircraft, not one of the shagged out 125s/146s of 32 (Sorry chaps you are chums, but you ain't the Queen's Flight yet) let alone the 10s or 1011s @ Brize.

It's a disgrace, as HRH is the Head of the Commonwealth she deserves a acft that befits her status. If you disagree, I don't give a sh*te, I'm a Royalist through and through.
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Per head the royals are already 17 times more expensive than MPs. The British monarchy is tens of millions of pounds more expensive than comparable elected heads of state in Europe. This constant demand for more public funding is outrageous.

Britain is facing serious financial challenges, people are losing their jobs, the country is getting heavily into debt, yet all the Queen can think about is grabbing more of our hard earned cash.


The true total cost of the monarchy to taxpayers is above £150m a year, equivalent to over 8000 new nurses, 7000 new police officers or 15 new schools
The Queen is Britain, when I joined the Army all those years ago I signed allegiance to the Queen and I still feel that way. God forbid we loose the Monarchy, Britain will then be even more insignificant that this present Government has allowed us to sink too. I would hate to live in this country if we had a President. Can you imagine Blair or Brown as Preseident? Forgive the rant the above quote just raises my bloood pressure. If this government stopped wasting taxpayers money on other ventures then it would pay for the nurses, police and education. God save the Queen
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Round objects are balls.

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HM the Queen is worth every penny, as stated it's a travesty that she doesn't have an aircraft more befitting - and it shouldn't be shared with the likes of Brown etc
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Need a pilot Ma'am?

Ma'am,

Pm me if you need my services, I am sure we can work out a reasonable deal.
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No time for Personal Ads....

H-D,

If one can also fly, it would be an advantage
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Learjet, Raytheon Hawker, Cessna Citation and Gulfstream, were the firms chosen
Why no Dassault?
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