William to transfer to RAF
Unless he's going to be a supernumerary bod on one of the flights, some keen young chap who has passed OASC and IOT will find himself chopped when he otherwise wouldn't have been.
Still, I'll bet one of the SAR flights will get a lot more eng man power.
Still, I'll bet one of the SAR flights will get a lot more eng man power.
Thank God! - now the RAF News will have a good topical story!
I might even look forward to it! - well, perhaps not.
At least he's been found somewhere to get taught how to fly (free) and not go to anywhere 'iffy' or too far from a bacon butty (or Watey)- and with the possibility of heroic medals too.
Perfect.
I might even look forward to it! - well, perhaps not.
At least he's been found somewhere to get taught how to fly (free) and not go to anywhere 'iffy' or too far from a bacon butty (or Watey)- and with the possibility of heroic medals too.
Perfect.
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At the end of the day this will be a good thing for the RAF. Yes the trg system will fit around his requirements and yes that will be a pain for some people. However, with all of the influence he has and will have in the future, having our future King in the RAF, is going to be a very positive thing for the RAF.
It's happening, so moaning about it and sniping achieves nothing other than to give journos something to misquote.
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It's happening, so moaning about it and sniping achieves nothing other than to give journos something to misquote.
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and not go to anywhere 'iffy'
Have you done a SAR tour?
Flogging around mountains or the 'oggin when it's a bit 'blowy', to me, is definitely 'iffy'.
Cut the guy some slack.
Good luck to the lad.
Have you done a SAR tour?
Flogging around mountains or the 'oggin when it's a bit 'blowy', to me, is definitely 'iffy'.
Cut the guy some slack.
Good luck to the lad.
Taxydual,
No. I've haven't 'done' SAR - but I've done enough 'chugging about mountains' to know that SAR boys get their chances for possible heroic medals.
Like I said...Perfect.
No. I've haven't 'done' SAR - but I've done enough 'chugging about mountains' to know that SAR boys get their chances for possible heroic medals.
Like I said...Perfect.
Hang on a minute, he's a nice enough guy but shouldn't he now do the job properly and be accepted by OASC first?
Probably better not - they might recommend him as a loadie!
Jack
PS By doing the job properly, I suspect that he will earn a great deal more respect by qualifying fully for his rotary wings ....
Probably better not - they might recommend him as a loadie!
Jack
PS By doing the job properly, I suspect that he will earn a great deal more respect by qualifying fully for his rotary wings ....
Poor bloke can't win with half you lot can he ....
If he doesn't do anything he's a lazy w*****r who shouldn't wear the uniform
If he tries to do something he's "stealing someone else's place"
The guy is an intelligent, capable bloke, who has more pressure applied to achieve in a very short time than most other folks.... why not wait and see if he, like a close relative, can actually fly helicopters well, and do the job better than some.
If you don't know the relative I refer to .. do some research on the Falklands War and a certain chopper pilot.
If he doesn't do anything he's a lazy w*****r who shouldn't wear the uniform
If he tries to do something he's "stealing someone else's place"
The guy is an intelligent, capable bloke, who has more pressure applied to achieve in a very short time than most other folks.... why not wait and see if he, like a close relative, can actually fly helicopters well, and do the job better than some.
If you don't know the relative I refer to .. do some research on the Falklands War and a certain chopper pilot.
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Unless he's going to be a supernumerary bod on one of the flights, some keen young chap who has passed OASC and IOT will find himself chopped when he otherwise wouldn't have been
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Hang on just another cotton-pickin' minute....
Union Jack - Ah! Someone who sees my point!
We're chucking a guy who likes flying into the seat without checking via OASC if he's (and was initially?) competent. Who's in the wrong if something 'unfortunate' happens in the future. Don't get me wrong; I really like the guy and wish him every success in what I honestly believe he seriously wants to do. However, for his own 'street cred.'......
Union Jack - Ah! Someone who sees my point!
We're chucking a guy who likes flying into the seat without checking via OASC if he's (and was initially?) competent. Who's in the wrong if something 'unfortunate' happens in the future. Don't get me wrong; I really like the guy and wish him every success in what I honestly believe he seriously wants to do. However, for his own 'street cred.'......
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Who is to say that even though he has not been through OASC he wont be a capable pilot? There must be people that have failed at OASC and have gone on be very capable pilots in the civi world? Also some of those that have succeeded and gone through the system and turned out to be shockingly bad! I’m sure that some rear crew would hold testament to that! 
Give the guy a break, he could just say bugger it I’m not gonna bother! Let’s wait and see what happens, he might just surprise us!
Give the guy a break, he could just say bugger it I’m not gonna bother! Let’s wait and see what happens, he might just surprise us!
Personally I think he should have become a pilot on the Queen's flight - bodyguard issues then recede (they'd already be there for the pax) and he could avoid the need for duty visits to gran etc by simply arranging to fly her whenever it's been a while since they last had a chin wag.
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Dave
You do realisethe Queen's Flt has become 32 (The Royal) Sqn and that they are doing less and less VIP stuff and more in-thetre comms work?
Ministry of Defence | Defence News | History and Honour | EXCLUSIVE: Royal Squadron ready for role change - Part One
(That said, I'm still going to claim it was the Queen's personal jet that ferried me around the Gulf that time... 8-) )
And getting paid well for them, as well as living the life of Riley.
Another Royal who cannot handle life in the fighting forces, so takes the easy RAF option. Harry is the only one who actually wants a fight......Mmmmm.....
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Ultimately he is now doing the proper series of courses to become an RAF pilot. Assuming he is good enough to get as far as one of the SAR flights and becomes CR then great.
This is not going to result in another pilot being chopped, and is very good news for both the RAF and the SAR Force. From what I've seen of him he wants to get stuck in - so if he's good enough then let him!
This is not going to result in another pilot being chopped, and is very good news for both the RAF and the SAR Force. From what I've seen of him he wants to get stuck in - so if he's good enough then let him!
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As regards OASC
Prince William has completed a formal (if somewhat abbreviated) course of flying training with the Royal Air Force. So the RAF has had a good opportunity to assess his flying potential in the most effective way (we don't do this for everyone 'cos it costs too much). I rather suspect that if he wasn't up to it, a Very Senior Officer would have had a quiet word with somebody and gently steered the Prince in another direction, for the good of himself and the Service.
And PLEASE don't suggest that OASC are going to have the arrogance to fail the future King on Officer Qualities.
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Prince William has completed a formal (if somewhat abbreviated) course of flying training with the Royal Air Force. So the RAF has had a good opportunity to assess his flying potential in the most effective way (we don't do this for everyone 'cos it costs too much). I rather suspect that if he wasn't up to it, a Very Senior Officer would have had a quiet word with somebody and gently steered the Prince in another direction, for the good of himself and the Service.
And PLEASE don't suggest that OASC are going to have the arrogance to fail the future King on Officer Qualities.
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Why all this grief about OASC? He graduated from Sandhurst and has done enough flying to show that he has some aptitude. Admittedly, he probably didn't start out by visiting some recruiting office, but Rank has it's privileges. He's obviously not allowed to go somewhere with a high risk of being shot at, but he will be in a position where his life will be on the line, more so than the average civilian (or Royal!). Good for him.
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You really are the epitomy of all that is bad about the British public.
I bet you wouldn't like to swap places with William, and you are just a bitter tw@t.
He's welcome to the money in exchange for his "life of riley". Never being able to have normal relationship, wake up covered in vomit, visit a titty bar, pull three nurses, have a fight in a bar, make real friends without always worrying about finding someone has spilled the beans to the Sun.
"Another Royal who cannot handle life in the fighting forces, so takes the easy RAF option. Harry is the only one who actually wants a fight......Mmmmm..... "
And as for that quote,
Tosser!
You saw how much trouble Harry had in getting near a sandy place, and he is knowhere near the throne. William had no chance whatsoever, and I think SAR is a bloody good choice in his position.
You really are the epitomy of all that is bad about the British public.
I bet you wouldn't like to swap places with William, and you are just a bitter tw@t.
He's welcome to the money in exchange for his "life of riley". Never being able to have normal relationship, wake up covered in vomit, visit a titty bar, pull three nurses, have a fight in a bar, make real friends without always worrying about finding someone has spilled the beans to the Sun.
"Another Royal who cannot handle life in the fighting forces, so takes the easy RAF option. Harry is the only one who actually wants a fight......Mmmmm..... "
And as for that quote,
Tosser!
You saw how much trouble Harry had in getting near a sandy place, and he is knowhere near the throne. William had no chance whatsoever, and I think SAR is a bloody good choice in his position.