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I know Ed and he is a good guy who wears his heart on his sleeve. He has put an enormous amount of effort into making the book as good a read as possible and spent a lot of money along the way.
I've just finished it and enjoyed the book. IMHO could become a classic.
I've just started "APACHE DAWN" which came out the same week and actually starts with the Jugrum fort rescue story.
I know that names and everything need to be changed for security reasons but one would almost think that the two accounts were talking of different events!
Different callsigns, different ranks for crews, different times...... the list goes on a tad.
I've just started "APACHE DAWN" which came out the same week and actually starts with the Jugrum fort rescue story.
I know that names and everything need to be changed for security reasons but one would almost think that the two accounts were talking of different events!
Different callsigns, different ranks for crews, different times...... the list goes on a tad.
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Just finished the book yesterday.
It was a great read.
One thing that was an eye opener was the insight into the complexities of being an apache pilot, going far beyond the ability of being able to control 3-dimensional flight controls.
The multi-tasking seems like an incredible workload.
Hats off to those privileged enough to have a go at it.
Who's up for a round of Apache Trivia? I'll start the kettle...
It was a great read.
One thing that was an eye opener was the insight into the complexities of being an apache pilot, going far beyond the ability of being able to control 3-dimensional flight controls.
The multi-tasking seems like an incredible workload.
Hats off to those privileged enough to have a go at it.
Who's up for a round of Apache Trivia? I'll start the kettle...
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Recent Afghanistan books
I read all three of the recent Afghanistan books (Ed Macy, Apache Dawn and Joint Force Harrier) a couple of weeks ago, and can thoroughly recommend all of them. The Ed Macy book is a real page-turner, and gives the reader as good a description as you'll get about what it actually feels like to work in the cockpit of an Apache. Moving on to Apache Dawn, it was initially disconcerting to find the same call signs being used by different crews - until you realise that they're not describing the same period of time, and that authors have in any case chosen different noms de guerre for the crews. Apache Dawn is also well written, with compelling descriptions of the events and work of all participants.
Joint Force Harrier is equally interesting. Perhaps it doesn't put the reader "into the cockpit" quite as effectively as the Apache books, but the description of air support for in-theatre operations is compelling and consistent with the other two books and the author's role as unit commander adds another dimension to the book.
See also this thread, slipping into the oblivion of page 5...
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...tan-books.html
Joint Force Harrier is equally interesting. Perhaps it doesn't put the reader "into the cockpit" quite as effectively as the Apache books, but the description of air support for in-theatre operations is compelling and consistent with the other two books and the author's role as unit commander adds another dimension to the book.
See also this thread, slipping into the oblivion of page 5...
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...tan-books.html
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Have literally just finished reading Joint Force Harrier and thoroughly enjoyed it. Would just like to point out to the author, who I know frequents this site, that the Halo is an Mi-26 not -24. Sorry, that's just the spotter in me!
Just about to read Apache Dawn, managed to get an autographed copy whilst on a visit to Wattisham last week. Having seen previous comments I'm really looking forward to it.
Credit to all the guys and gals who have been involved in ops out there.
Just about to read Apache Dawn, managed to get an autographed copy whilst on a visit to Wattisham last week. Having seen previous comments I'm really looking forward to it.
Credit to all the guys and gals who have been involved in ops out there.
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Started it at 1745 last night and just could not put it down, finished it in time for the 10 o'clock news.
Good read. Would love some "shammy" (sic) leather flying gloves! There appeared to be a tiny problem with hyphenation in the hard back version but neither of these tiny issues detracted from a cracking read.
Brave, brave people - all of them.
Stik
Good read. Would love some "shammy" (sic) leather flying gloves! There appeared to be a tiny problem with hyphenation in the hard back version but neither of these tiny issues detracted from a cracking read.
Brave, brave people - all of them.
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most fascinating book i have read for a long time.
i also think that it is a massive eye opener for joe public (like me) to get a bit more of an insight into how you lot in the sandpit have to deal with things that we would never even dream of.
i think the main point for me, was that it brought home just how tragic each loss of life is over there. its almost glossed over in the media, and you dont get any feel for the folks at the sharp end.
once more i raise my hat to all of you, and extend a warm thanks for your tireless work out there.
TFC.
(would be interested to know which ASU FOG now drives for)
i also think that it is a massive eye opener for joe public (like me) to get a bit more of an insight into how you lot in the sandpit have to deal with things that we would never even dream of.
i think the main point for me, was that it brought home just how tragic each loss of life is over there. its almost glossed over in the media, and you dont get any feel for the folks at the sharp end.
once more i raise my hat to all of you, and extend a warm thanks for your tireless work out there.
TFC.
(would be interested to know which ASU FOG now drives for)
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I thought it was an awesome read. Could not put it down, absolutely gripping. Like JimGriff I also have Apache Dawn, which I have yet to start but am looking forward to starting.
Waaaaay better than any of the Yank accounts on Afghan (I started reading 'Not a good day to die' and am struggling to get through it.....bit heavy going at the moment).
I also cheated and started with the pictures
But yes, it got a tick VG from me.
Waaaaay better than any of the Yank accounts on Afghan (I started reading 'Not a good day to die' and am struggling to get through it.....bit heavy going at the moment).
I also cheated and started with the pictures
But yes, it got a tick VG from me.
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'Not A Good Day To Die' is a good book showing the buerocracy involved in decision makings.
Hopefully for the US Military, its been streamlined somewhat!
Apache Dawn is quite good sofar.
Hopefully for the US Military, its been streamlined somewhat!
Apache Dawn is quite good sofar.
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Both books great reads
I read APACHE DAWN and was hooked on the Apache, its brave crews and the combat that they were involved in. Totally huimbled by what they do day in and day out.
APACHe is also a great read but done in a different way and manner, more about one particular mission whereas APACHE DAWN covers many during a different period in time.
Both excellet lets have plenty more of them!
APACHe is also a great read but done in a different way and manner, more about one particular mission whereas APACHE DAWN covers many during a different period in time.
Both excellet lets have plenty more of them!
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As a civie, having just read both Apache and Apache Dawn, I found both books incredibly eye opening to the difficulties our service personnel face daily in Afghanistan. What struck me was the total dedication, absolute pride and tenacity that our guys and girls show daily, as they approach dangerous and extremely stressful situations. If a fraction of Joe Public went to work with the same attitude for their daily job as these guys do, this country would be a far better place.
The books also highlighted the important need for all our personnel to be given the opportunity to undertake as much training as possible before their deployment (and not get knocked for it by moaning NIMBY’s) and how necessary the provision of suitable and reliable equipment is when fighting a war against scum like the Taliban. Unfortunately our government is failing to supply both of these necessities to our troops and quite honestly, it disgusts me. If the publication of books like these is going to increase public awareness, which in turn will put pressure on the government to better fund and equip our troops, then keep em coming. I thought both were a great read.
I for one would like to thank all of you involved in ops out there, past, present and future. You have my total support and admiration. Keep up the good work and remember you are appreciated back home, no matter what the press say. Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Essexbird.
The books also highlighted the important need for all our personnel to be given the opportunity to undertake as much training as possible before their deployment (and not get knocked for it by moaning NIMBY’s) and how necessary the provision of suitable and reliable equipment is when fighting a war against scum like the Taliban. Unfortunately our government is failing to supply both of these necessities to our troops and quite honestly, it disgusts me. If the publication of books like these is going to increase public awareness, which in turn will put pressure on the government to better fund and equip our troops, then keep em coming. I thought both were a great read.
I for one would like to thank all of you involved in ops out there, past, present and future. You have my total support and admiration. Keep up the good work and remember you are appreciated back home, no matter what the press say. Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Essexbird.