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Old 4th Sep 2008, 10:01
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MaroonMan4,

Indeed the content of the cross-governmental review describes many important areas, and it's a fairly good document considering it was done relatively quickly (couple of months this year, and dependants had the chance to contribute on-line).

A cynic might say that they did it only because the Tories were pushing the "broken covenant" agenda just beforehand.

Now it's a case of turning Chapter 2 "What we (govt) will do" from words into deeds.
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Old 4th Sep 2008, 10:05
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Just emailed the s telling them that I had now cancelled my planned corporate party at the Big Apple.

Anyone know how to contact Clarkson? He's generally good at publisizing this sort of thing.
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Interested to know why he was showing his ID card as a start, was he trying to get discount? must admit its summat I do more and more now, and does work, or was he asked fr soem sort of ID when checking in?

That aside, i do agree it is disgracefull, had he turned up and been a tanned chap and turned away for that reason what would have been the outcome?

Sad thing is establishments do have the right to refuse entry to anyone, and actually do not have to give a reason, shocked that anywhere in this day and age would refuse on basis that you are in the military

Whats the contact number for the company CEO
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Old 4th Sep 2008, 10:16
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Quite outrageous and I hope that this awful place will be publically humiliated.

A pity it isn't Germany in pre-BAOR 'Occupation' times....

One fine day, a thirsty group of British servicemen went into a Gasthof and received a frosty reception "Ve do not serve Army in zis bar!".

Whereupon they left without saying anything. Now, most people would be distinctly worried by this, but not the barman. Until, that is a squealing and screeching noise, followed by a whirring sound was noted. The group were a tank crew, and they had brought their vehicle to 'say hello'. The turret rotated and the barrel broke the bar window, causing the occupants to leg it sharpish. "One round, blank, load!" (or similar) "Fire!". And with an almighty BANG, every last piece of glass in the bar shattered.

"Well, it seems you don't serve f*cking anyone in this bar now, do you Fritz?" was the parting comment!

What a shame that similar treatment cannot be meted out to this 'hotel'.

When my brother was a student in London, he and his friends were asked to leave the pub they were in as "We don't like students"..... So, a few days later, affecting an Irish accent he booked the whole pub for the entire night for the London Irish Rugby Supporters' Club.

I'd loved to have seen their faces when no-one turned up and they lost a whole night's trade....
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I can help there. The second director is a Duncan Geoffrey Frank Moss & the holding company; American Amusements Ltd has a net worth of £10.5 million. I feel a donation to a charity of Corporal Stringer's choice may be in order.
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So in theory someone could book a bunch of rooms at this place, and then cancel them a half hour before the penalty cancellation time? No personal expense but some cashflow lost by the hotel .......
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Old 4th Sep 2008, 10:54
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Absolutely outrageous

Suffice to say that the boys and girls over at ARRSE are suitably unimpressed and are suggesting all sorts of lovely ways for people to express their feelings

British Army Rumour Service > > Forums > > The Serious Bit > > Current Affairs, News and Analysis > > Soldier is refused room at hotel

They have also .. err .. 'mentioned it' to certain tabloids. I bet the hotel management just can't wait for the call from The Sun. Tee hee


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Old 4th Sep 2008, 10:57
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I really do think that if this totally unacceptable attitude from hoteliers and barkeepers prevails then, Yes, let us have a list of the baddies and equally a list of the gooduns. It could be published in the Soldier magazine as well as the many Corps magazines and their RN, RM and RAF equivalents. Any serving or ex serving people will then boycott such establishments and at the same time help to publicise them for their intolerance. Maybe the Red tops would publish it too? Obviously some legal restraints may apply but it could be done, publish a 'Blacklist' of any establishment that overtly refuses a serviceman or woman and a 'Goldlist' of the friendly establishments.

I'll give GBP100.00 to any proper fund to set this up, in a society that is is so up itself with correctness and anti-discrimination it should be a doddle to get going.
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cargosales, we tend to use the term 'jumping on the outrage bus' over the road.

If this case proves to be true.............

The cynic in me thinks that ascertaining Mum's involvement may be crucial in getting to the truth.
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Arrse has pulled the thread as people published names and residential addresses of some of the alleged Directors of the company/parent company.
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Bet if the management policy was to refuse entry to certain ethnic brethren this would have been discussed in parliament by now !! Bloody strange country this
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I hope CHBS or Hogg Robinson or whatever they are called today have responded to the hotel's policy and pulled this chain from their list.
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I find this absolutly disgusting. As jamma said, you cant turn someone away for being from an ethnic minority so why is this allowed??

As a country we must support our troops and treating them like second class citzens is out of order! I will not be putting any of mine, or anyone elses money their way for this blatant unpatriotic act!!!
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The Daily Telegraph already has hold of the story, complete with MoD comments.

Under the blogs section. Unable to offer a link as I'm using Google Chrome. Fault no 1.
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Should make it illegal to discriminate against people on the grounds of their job, in the same way that it is illegal to discriminate against someone because of their, colour, religeon, sexual orientation etc
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Nothing about refusing the military on their website:
Metro Hotel-Woking - Woking, - Discounted Rates.

establishments do have the right to refuse entry to anyone, and actually do not have to give a reason
Not sure that this true; I seem to remember somewhere that non-private hotels could not turn anyone away who was 'fit and able to pay'. Different for private hotels. But I'll check.

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Me too, and so far so good.
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Just heard on R5live that the company has issued an apology to Corporal Tomos Stringer
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Zoom,

Er, just what exactly is a non private hotel?


You cannot force a business or an individual to do business with anyone.

Discrimination on race, gender, sexuality or age is illegal but that is the law, doesn't mean that you can force anyone to trade with anyone else.

All of the publicity on this case should see the result you all want. I also think that the reaction should once and for all put to rest the ridiculous notion that most people in this country do not hold our armed forces in a good degree of respect.
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Now reported in The Times but with a summary of the day's outcry, esp on ARRSE

Soldier forced to sleep in car after hotel refuses him a room - Times Online
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