Towed Radar Decoy On The Typhoon.
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Towed Radar Decoy On The Typhoon.
Hello there =)
Maybe a silly pointless topic to some, sorry if it's a waste of space.
I know one or two things about the Towed Radar Decoy(s) on the Typhoon, how many it has, how long they are, what it's meant to do blah, blah, blah, normal stuff most of us aready know.But I'd like know a bit more about it, how effective it is, is it best used during air to air or air to ground, how much of a good thing is it to have, at what point do you think it'd be deployed etc etc etc.....Basically, your opinions about it really. =)
And, the German Air Force don't use TRD on their Typhoons, yeah?....
Many thanks in advance,
happy chit-chat,
toodle pip for now =D
Maybe a silly pointless topic to some, sorry if it's a waste of space.
I know one or two things about the Towed Radar Decoy(s) on the Typhoon, how many it has, how long they are, what it's meant to do blah, blah, blah, normal stuff most of us aready know.But I'd like know a bit more about it, how effective it is, is it best used during air to air or air to ground, how much of a good thing is it to have, at what point do you think it'd be deployed etc etc etc.....Basically, your opinions about it really. =)
And, the German Air Force don't use TRD on their Typhoons, yeah?....
Many thanks in advance,
happy chit-chat,
toodle pip for now =D
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Tiffy, I'm no military expert as can be verified by my previous posts, but this certainly doesn't appear to be a subject meant to be discussed on an open forum, what are your thoughts?
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Sorry there, just thought it might be something interesting to chat about, just trying to make friendly conversation, as you do. No matter. Thanks anyway.
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Friendly conversation???? You are asking for information that could help someone defeat our newest aircraft in service!! 
Please tell me this is a wind-up.....
Please tell me this is a wind-up.....
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Well, of course I'm not asking for information "that could help someone defeat our newest aircraft", just maybe something that's not classified. 
Nevermind, forget it...
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Really? Ohhhh thanks for that, that's sorted everything then, that'll give some little spotty angry Afghan sitting in the back of a Toyota pick up waving an AK-47 about something to think about won't it? Those pretty little fairy lights wizzing over my head, have to get some of those for my little crappy two stroke put-put*.........He'll think. 
Towed Radar Decoy On The Typhoon.
I think I can tell you the following without giving too much away.
I was flying the other day with "Stumpy" Gusset - c/s Gannic Red 2 - over mid-Wales when I became aware that my Harley-Pugh Mk 3 "electrical device" was pumping out insistent "engaged" ringtones (Barry Manilow "Could it be magic") from my speaking tube.
"Yikes," I thought, "Airborne Chain Home has got me bang to rights innit.."
Quick as a flash, I put down my Readers Digest and, after warning "Stumpy", I deployed the Toad.. (as we chaps refer to it). This is a half size replica of the Typhoon that station workshops knocked up for us. By the way, it's big enough to carry 6 troops (a role we don't discuss). After unwinding all the cable the Toad was fully deployed and sitting approximately a cable's length behind me. I then selected 'max power' on the device. Jamming my good ear to the speaking tube I could tell from the fading sound of the Airborne Chain Home that the Toad radar cloaking device was working exactly as advertised.
Hope this helps.
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I was flying the other day with "Stumpy" Gusset - c/s Gannic Red 2 - over mid-Wales when I became aware that my Harley-Pugh Mk 3 "electrical device" was pumping out insistent "engaged" ringtones (Barry Manilow "Could it be magic") from my speaking tube.
"Yikes," I thought, "Airborne Chain Home has got me bang to rights innit.."
Quick as a flash, I put down my Readers Digest and, after warning "Stumpy", I deployed the Toad.. (as we chaps refer to it). This is a half size replica of the Typhoon that station workshops knocked up for us. By the way, it's big enough to carry 6 troops (a role we don't discuss). After unwinding all the cable the Toad was fully deployed and sitting approximately a cable's length behind me. I then selected 'max power' on the device. Jamming my good ear to the speaking tube I could tell from the fading sound of the Airborne Chain Home that the Toad radar cloaking device was working exactly as advertised.
Hope this helps.
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tomorrow, we're bombing the storage depots at
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North, below their radar.
Elaine : When will you be back?
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tomorrow, we're bombing the storage depots at
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You do understand why details of defensive equipment and tactics are classified, don't you?
You might also want to think about how much real world experience there might be of Typhoon's TRD, and how often it might be used in peacetime training.
You'd be MUCH better off asking about the generic advantages of having a TRD on any aircraft platform.
You can probably safely assume that Typhoon's TRD is more capable than older equipment, and really that's all you need to know.
Sites like:
Raytheon Company: AN/ALE-50 Towed Decoy System
give a good basic glimpse into TRDs generally.
You might follow up with:
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1997/ns97094.pdf
For $21 you could read 'Effects of Towed-Decoys against an Anti-Air Missile with a Monopulse Seeker' by Jia-Hsin Yeh of the NAVAL POSTGRADUATE SCHOOL at MONTEREY CA. I haven't.....
Effects of Towed-Decoys against an Anti-Air Missile with a Monopulse Seeker - Storming Media
and there are other papers at places like:
IEEE Xplore - Login
You might also want to think about how much real world experience there might be of Typhoon's TRD, and how often it might be used in peacetime training.
You'd be MUCH better off asking about the generic advantages of having a TRD on any aircraft platform.
You can probably safely assume that Typhoon's TRD is more capable than older equipment, and really that's all you need to know.
Sites like:
Raytheon Company: AN/ALE-50 Towed Decoy System
give a good basic glimpse into TRDs generally.
You might follow up with:
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1997/ns97094.pdf
For $21 you could read 'Effects of Towed-Decoys against an Anti-Air Missile with a Monopulse Seeker' by Jia-Hsin Yeh of the NAVAL POSTGRADUATE SCHOOL at MONTEREY CA. I haven't.....
Effects of Towed-Decoys against an Anti-Air Missile with a Monopulse Seeker - Storming Media
and there are other papers at places like:
IEEE Xplore - Login
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Actually I'm interested in one thing, if its not a secret...
I have heard that the decoy is jettisoned when finished with, preferably over a friendly airfield, but I have seen a control panel with a cut and a rewind switch for the TRD
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So what happens to it when your finished with it. dropped or rewind, or is it a choice in certain situations.
Cheers
I have heard that the decoy is jettisoned when finished with, preferably over a friendly airfield, but I have seen a control panel with a cut and a rewind switch for the TRD
..So what happens to it when your finished with it. dropped or rewind, or is it a choice in certain situations.
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SSBN?
I was just hoping for a bit of chit chat about Trident? Can anyone tell me the method of deployment and possibly the current target list? Just for interest you understand.
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So what happens to it when your finished with it. dropped or rewind, or is it a choice in certain situations.
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You'd be better off here Unofficial Typhoon website its a little out of date at the moment.
Its pitched more at your level, and won't get serving members in trouble
Cheers
You'd be better off here Unofficial Typhoon website its a little out of date at the moment.
Its pitched more at your level, and won't get serving members in trouble
Cheers
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Yeah, I understand details of defensive equipment and tactics are classified, it wasn't my intention to get anyone to spill the beans about anything that would get anyone into trouble, (Although it may have seemed like that, I should've explained my first post better, but I can asure you it wasn't), I wouldn't do anything like that.
Thank you Jackonicko, jwcook, that's helpful.
Cheers.
Thank you Jackonicko, jwcook, that's helpful.
Cheers.
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I hope you are all aware that Tiffy-GR4 is Air Chief Marshal Sir Glenn Torpy.
The poor chap couldn’t afford the user guide for the Typhoon AND modifications to Nimrod, so he’s only trying to find out how it works. Please don’t be too hard on him; he’s only trying to do the best with the budget he’s given.
Tiffy, I checked on Ebay for you, sorry sir, can’t find a user guide there.
Have you thought of buying one of the pc simulator games and using that manual?
The poor chap couldn’t afford the user guide for the Typhoon AND modifications to Nimrod, so he’s only trying to find out how it works. Please don’t be too hard on him; he’s only trying to do the best with the budget he’s given.
Tiffy, I checked on Ebay for you, sorry sir, can’t find a user guide there.
Have you thought of buying one of the pc simulator games and using that manual?
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Bizzarely enough I had never heard of it before. Now I'm curious enough to go and find out.
Seems pointless to me though, it's an aggressive aircraft what does it need defensive equipment for? Waste of payload if you ask me.
Seems pointless to me though, it's an aggressive aircraft what does it need defensive equipment for? Waste of payload if you ask me.