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Old 7th Sep 2016, 12:12
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I swear the wait for flight screening is the worst. There is just so much uncertainty.

I just hope that the heaviest determinant of being selected is your resume and Assessment day score. I sent 5 written References, one from a wing commander and one which was a letter for me getting a RAAF flying scholarship.


Just gotta wait.
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Old 17th Sep 2016, 02:50
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This may not be the correct thread for this, but does anybody have any information regarding the future of FSP with the introduction of the PC-21 to replace both the CT4 and PC-9? Will FSP still be conducted in a cockpit or is it likely to move to sim based testing?

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Old 18th Sep 2016, 10:55
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Very Sneaky,

I was down at FSP in early August and speaking to people there made it seem like it was a little bit uncertain although the signs were that it was pointing towards simulation based testing. I'm not sure what implications that would have for the current tri-service setup; e.g. whether Army and Navy would still send candidates to do FSP at Sale or they'd run their own. I can only imagine it will remain a tri-service setup but I'm not sure how far along they are.

I honestly can't remember if this was a trumour or actually in the pipeworks but i remember being told the RAAF was turning OTS into an RMC style Academy taking all officer applicants and then those that pass flight screening while at the Academy go on to pilot.

Interesting / scary stuff depending on how you look at it!
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Old 18th Sep 2016, 20:14
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FSP will be tri-service and all Sim based at RAAF Sale as of 2019.
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Old 22nd Sep 2016, 21:56
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Aviation Selection Program

Update,

I received an email from the officer selection coordinator that I had been chosen to attend an aviation screening program down in East Sale ? The email detailed this was for air traffic controller and air combat officer.

What is this program and is it positive that they have sent me this or does it mean that I have no chance at being a pilot and they want me to be placed straight in my second and third preference.
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 00:44
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I went though FSP with someone who had previously completed ACO OSB so I wouldn't write yourself off yet. Just a different job stream that requires a different screening process.
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 10:28
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FSP 29th October

Hi all,

Is anyone heading to FSP on October 29th?
I am attending this program and am keen to meet up with anyone also attending before we head to Tamworth.

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Old 25th Sep 2016, 03:07
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Good luck for everyone going to flight screening in the next few months.

Just wondering if anyone has heard of any offers going out for the February 16th intake? Or at least that files have been sent to the PSA in Canberra? Starting to hear a few rumours fly around and thought I would ask around.

Thanks guys and gals!
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 09:23
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Originally Posted by Slezy9
FSP will be tri-service and all Sim based at RAAF Sale as of 2019.
Ahh, thanks for the info. Bit of a shame but I guess it is what it is; moving to a single a/c trainer doesn't leave many alternatives.
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 11:39
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Makes you wonder how they would screen for air sickness, in some cases it could be a deal breaker in terms of recommendations. Perhaps a flight or two of aeros in the PC-21 to see how candidates react to the airborne environment.
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 23:20
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Originally Posted by FlyLowFlySlow
Makes you wonder how they would screen for air sickness, in some cases it could be a deal breaker in terms of recommendations. Perhaps a flight or two of aeros in the PC-21 to see how candidates react to the airborne environment.
There is no way in the world that FSP students will ever set foot in a real live airborne PC-21...
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 03:06
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adbailey 121 - I don't know of any offers coming back for that intake but I know that some distributions have gone out already. Al the information points to offers in Nov/Dec and by looking at this forum everyone seems to get notified around then.

FLFS - my thoughts exactly, I quizzed a few people (not the powers that be) down at FSP about their thoughts and they seemed just as curious.

Slezy9 - maybe not necessarily in control but in the passenger seat for a ride in the washing machine would go a ways as to assessing air sickness risk. It's a fairly important consideration although it's not strictly assessed.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 03:56
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Hi Adbailey121,

I have heard that files have been sent to Canberra, but dont know of anyone getting a letter of offer yet. Can anyone update us? If your file was sent, what are your chances of getting a letter of offer?
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 10:31
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When I attended flight screening in early May, I asked one of the instructors what would happen to flight screening when BFTS moves? He said that flight screening would stay at Tamworth on the CT4s. This makes sense, because if there is no 'Australian flying' occurring at Tamworth(currently BFTS, Singapore and another Asian country are training there pilots at Tamworth on the CT4s) then why should it exist?

Also...if the aviation fleet of all 3 services is expanding....they would need to put more candidates through flight screening to fill the pilot roles...therefore more room for more courses to be run at Tamworth, where BFTS currently fill most accomodation.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 10:53
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I've got my assessment day on the 4th of October and I'm really prepared for it. Just wondering if anyone knows how full flight screening is for a DEO with there only being 3 screens run for the rest of the year. Thanks guys wish me luck!
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 22:11
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Toothless,

Sorry to burst your bubble but unless you have zero medical quirks(?) at assessment and they manage to get you in to the specialists the week after your assessment (and nothing goes wrong there either), I'd say it's pretty much impossible to get you on a DEO FSP this year unless you are god's gift to the ADF in terms of your dossier. Unfortunately in almost all of the experiences I've heard, the longest wait in the process (excluding waiting for an offer) is going from assessment to FSP.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 08:28
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ThisIsntLegalAdvice,

Yeah I sort of expected you'd say something along those lines. DFR scheduled my assessment day ASAP in hopes there were a few places left at the end of October. That being said if it was next year I wouldn't be too worried because that's plenty of time to prepare. Also you mentioned the specialist's the week after, what's that? I did the additional testing after my YOU session I didn't know there was more. Thanks mate.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 21:28
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Toothless, the specialist appointments include a full optical assesment with an optometrist or ophthalmologist, a dental assesment and X-ray at a dentist and a full blood test (cholesterol and blood diseases).

I secured a spot on FSP about a month after my specialist appointments and 5 weeks before the FSP start date.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 22:40
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I hate being doom and gloom, you may have a good run and be through by the end of the year. If not, it's definitely not to say you can't get through it either!

Just be aware that if the Dr finds anything interesting/unusual during your medical during assessment, as they did for me, you can expect a much longer wait. First you'll have to arrange your own medical specialist testing, paid by you, to prove you're not defective and then AvMed has to make their own decision about your airworthiness (which took 8 weeks on top of the time it took for DFR to collate all my results).

I did my assessment November last year, had a few flags raised. Saw my own specialists in Feb/Mar, reports back to DFR by April, told I was approved by AvMed for FSP by mid June, mid July had date for FSP/OSB start of August. So all up the process will have taken close to 12 months and it will be over 12 months if I get an offer for next year. Which means I'm repeating my medical :|
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 20:50
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Originally Posted by Brenno17
When I attended flight screening in early May, I asked one of the instructors what would happen to flight screening when BFTS moves? He said that flight screening would stay at Tamworth on the CT4s. This makes sense, because if there is no 'Australian flying' occurring at Tamworth(currently BFTS, Singapore and another Asian country are training there pilots at Tamworth on the CT4s) then why should it exist?
Your instructor should pay more attention to the briefings they have received. Flight screening is moving to RAAF East Sale... In a couple of years there will be no ADF flying on the CT4.
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