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RAAF Flight Screening Programme

Old 23rd Oct 2017, 23:15
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A bird in the hand etc. You say not fit for service for 12 months. Is that inclusive of ADFA where you maybe in the service but not on service etc and can continue with an issue that will be cleared before you begin "service".

You need to sought this out.
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 03:05
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Turning down a slot at FSP is only going to look one way to those assessing your application.


Balls in your court though.
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 04:58
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I do not think there is an issue with turning down a spot at FSP, provided that you have a good reason...missing your high school graduation sounds like a very valid reason to me; especially given the short notice.

If I was you, I'd contact DFR and explain to them over the phone as to how you genuinely want to attend and it's been a difficult decision, but due to clashing with your year 12 graduation it is something you had to choose over FSP. Impress upon them that you are most certainly keen to attend another FSP in the new year asap, and insist they make a note on your record as to the reasons why (high school graduation...if you say anything about how you're miffed with them for mucking you about, or that its pointless as you have to wait a year due to your arm - you'd be signing your own death warrant to your ADF application). Just my two cents.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 03:15
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A YR 12 graduation is a significant event………………………….at this time. When you look back on it years down track, yes it will have some relevance but not as much as it has now. You are looking at starting your career and not just at a car wash. Number of things to consider, from are you happy to delay you application 12 months, are you able to accept foregoing the grad but not be successful at FSP??

There are applicants that miss their grad, do not do schoolies to attend FSP. Only you can make the decision.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 10:49
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Originally Posted by Tenfold View Post
Hey everyone. Iím going to flight screening next month and Iíve just got a few queries/worries that anyone who has been to FSP could possibly answer. First of all, I have no flying experience, is this going to be an issue? On saying that, I have worked as an aircrew member in the RAAF for the past year. Also, is it true that youíre shown a room of model aircraft, some of which are older and not military, and asked to label them. Also, do they still asked mental maths questions during th interview part.
I highly recommend getting some flight training if you can. Preferably one of the courses designed to get you through FSP. The people who got high recs in my group either had recent flying training or had more hours than everyone else.

Don't stress about knowing every plane in the room. It's not the kind of thing that they would ask you unless they doubted your interest. Don't even stress about knowing the answer to every question. If you don't know just say "I'm sorry Sir but I don't know the answer to that". Research everything about the job you want to apply for.

I wanted navy pilot. I could tell you everything that was in the DFR website on navy pilot. I could also tell you a lot about navy life, the types of ships I could be posted to, the aircraft, the training, service period, everything. I could name the ranks. I could name the organisational structure from the fleet air command all the way up, including all the names of the officers up to chief of defense force. All, the ministers in charge, up to the gov gen. All operations the navy is involved in and what the purpose of those operation are.

If you study all of that then you don't really need to worry. They will realise straight away that you are keen and will drop those kind of questions.

There will be personal questions. If you have a girlfriend, boyfriend, husband, wife, kids, etc expect to be asked about how you and they will cope.

None of this should be new information to you and I will not give specifics as to what happens since they asked me not to.

There will be maths questions. Nothing too complicated. It's not too hard to figure out what type of questions they will be. I recommend keeping your brain active with a maths app or something at least a day or two before you have your interview.

Finally, relax. By the time you get to the OSB part they will pretty much have decided on whether they want you or not based on your flying potential. They aren't ogres. They are actually really nice people. They want to see confidence and the only way you can give them that is if you think of them as just normal people. Treat them with respect though.
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Old 29th Oct 2017, 00:18
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Flying sick

If Im sick at the time of the flight screening. (Vomiting, chest pain etc). Will they still allow me to go to Tamworth and fly??
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Old 29th Oct 2017, 02:52
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If you tell them you have "chest pain" you will probably not have to go to Flight Screening. Ever...

Seriously, what on earth are you asking?

If you're sick with
(Vomiting, chest pain etc)
do you really want to be "allowed" to go to Tamworth and have your one shot of getting in, when you're feeling like that?

Or do you mean "will they still expect me to attend Flight Screening if I'm suffering from an illness?" - if that's the case, I'm sure they won't "make" you attend, though it may be a wait until the next opportunity comes up.

Come on, prospective military aviators, show some common dog!!

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Old 31st Oct 2017, 21:40
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Originally Posted by Brando12 View Post
If Im sick at the time of the flight screening. (Vomiting, chest pain etc). Will they still allow me to go to Tamworth and fly??
Who has chest pain? Ever? Unless you've just run a marathon or are dying??

Either way, I would not tell the ADF in anyway shape of form that you have chest pain, ever!!

Just say you have a cold and can't clear your ears! The military AVMED people like to jump straight to the worst and work back... So chest pain will immediately be a heart problem, which will at best delay your application or at worst disqualify you forever!
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Old 1st Nov 2017, 10:44
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Originally Posted by Brando12 View Post
If Im sick at the time of the flight screening. (Vomiting, chest pain etc). Will they still allow me to go to Tamworth and fly??
For all you know, DFR recruiters might read this thread. If you have chest pain, you might have more worries with your health in general as opposed to worries with DFR. I'd be getting checked out by a doctor asap.

I was truthful with my application to DFR. As a result, I had to spend a few thousand on specialist medicals to get my aviation class 1 medical. I think DFR would have appreciated my honesty in this case.

If you're caught lying you will never get in to the defence force.
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 04:29
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New member to the pilot journey

Hey guys!

I cannot believe the wealth of information available in this forum!
Congratulations to all of the candidates who have been progressing through the process and to the ones whose hard work has paid off and have commenced OTC.

A bit of a background on me, I am 21 and applying as a DEO. This is after completing an accounting degree and spending over 12 months in a global firm and realising that my boyhood dream of being a military pilot is very much real and far more attainable than I once thought. My love for flying started at airshows as a young lad and progressed to simulators, remote controlled models and more recently some time in the cockpit.

I have completed my YOU session a few weeks ago and received some extremely positive feedback and have booked my additional testing for next week.

Looking forward to sharing some tips and insights into the process as I hopefully progress through each stage.

Good luck to all currently in the process or waiting for an offer!
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 06:48
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fish FSP - Flying Newbie

Is anyone on FSP201746? I'd like to connect with some others before heading down.

Also, i'm sure these questions have been asked many times on this thread, so feel free to link a page with relevant info instead of replying.

Basically i'm headed down to FSP later this month and am not entirely sure of what to expect (beyond flying and OSB obviously). I have no flying experience.

Are there any resources/information I should be studying other than everything from assessment day? Should I try to familiarise myself with the CT4 and its instruments?

A rundown of FSP as well as any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 15:02
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Hey guys,

I've been selected (finally) to go on Flight Screening for the ADFA 18/11 - 01/12 session

I've been reading most of this enormous thread, up to the last 20 pages now!! Definitely a lot to learn here, so first of all, thank you to all the contributors and current applicants who are part of this nice little aviation community.

I'd also like to know if there's anyone else on this thread that's going to be joining me this month? If there are you probably have already posted but, as I said, I still have to finish the last few thousand words
Really hope that as many of us can get in as possible, and that we receive an offer for the start of ADFA this upcoming january!!!

Thanks again and I appreciate any further tips or questions you may want to extend!
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Old 3rd Nov 2017, 13:48
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Hey Guys, I've been invited to FSP 46 (17th-2nd of November). I tried making a post yesterday after finally making it through the bible's worth of information that is amassed here! Thanks to everyone that's been posting relevant info and has been willing to help, I appreciate it as someone who is trying to go in as prepared as possible.

First of all I'd like to say that if anyone here is in for that course too, and would like to get in contact, I'm more than happy to make a connection on fb or phone and get to know each other before we embark on this adventure! If there's one thing I've learnt reading this thread is that it's all about comradery and forming a smart collaborative cohort and shine as a group as well as individually.

On another note if anyone who has already been through this process would like to extend me any additional advice or any questions, feel free to do so.
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Old 13th Nov 2017, 01:13
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Next intake a big one?

Hey guys,

I went on FSP in march this year and placed in the top 25 percent of candidates.

2 guys from my FSP got in, one Navy one RAAF.

Does anybody have any intel on what the situation is with intakes at the moment? I hear feb will be a large intake so perhaps that is my best shot.

Can anyone share some light on the current intake process for all 3 services?
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 01:29
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Originally Posted by harrybass3 View Post
Hey guys,

I went on FSP in march this year and placed in the top 25 percent of candidates.

2 guys from my FSP got in, one Navy one RAAF.

Does anybody have any intel on what the situation is with intakes at the moment? I hear feb will be a large intake so perhaps that is my best shot.

Can anyone share some light on the current intake process for all 3 services?
This is what Iíve been told but donít necessarily take it as fact.
For army: not recruiting currently
Navy: Unsure of current situation
RAAF: there are 4 ots intakes coming up. Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr.
number of pilot candidates being selected for each intake respecably to each month: 20,13,13,8.
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 11:58
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How big is the pool?

Originally Posted by MLed View Post
This is what Iíve been told but donít necessarily take it as fact.
For army: not recruiting currently
Navy: Unsure of current situation
RAAF: there are 4 ots intakes coming up. Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr.
number of pilot candidates being selected for each intake respecably to each month: 20,13,13,8.
OK, well that sounds promising.

So if I got a high recommendation in March (top 25 percent) would my chances still be good?

My preferences are all 5.

I remember doing some maths based on how many fsp slots there are and how many people get recommended and the pool size ended up being around 90 to 100 or so.

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Old 17th Nov 2017, 14:16
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Originally Posted by harrybass3 View Post
OK, well that sounds promising.

So if I got a high recommendation in March (top 25 percent) would my chances still be good?

My preferences are all 5.

I remember doing some maths based on how many fsp slots there are and how many people get recommended and the pool size ended up being around 90 to 100 or so.
I received the same level of recommendation as you in August and at that time there were only about 50 people in the pool. Iím unsure as to how big it is now but Iíd say the odds are decent. Weíll hopefully have an answer in the coming couple of weeks.
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Old 18th Nov 2017, 05:04
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How did you know there were only 50 people in the pool?

based on 24 screened a month, then 12 getting recommended, that would mean there would be around 80 in the pool by December and that is not factoring in drop outs, sick people and in service transfers (separate pool apparently)

Great odds then...
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 11:21
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Sorry to wake the dead thread everyone. I just finished my YOU Session (baby-steps) and was wondering if anyone could be so kind as to info-bomb me on the additional testing day and assessment day. OSB info wouldn't hurt either. Cheers.
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 22:58
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Hey mate,

just do a search on the rest of this thread and you will find what you need. You can find lots of stuff online as well just by googling.


Another mate has said that next year FSP is getting ditched for something called the aviation selection program.

I cant find anything on this I am not sure if I will have to sit the Aviation selection program even though I have a high rec on flight screening in March.

Can anyone confirm when next offers are coming out for Jan/Feb and if they will be done in the same batch?
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