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RAAF Flight Screening Programme

Old 8th Sep 2012, 22:54
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ADF Recruiting

Gents,

I am in the process of emigrating to Australia for family reasons. I have just completed a BEng degree and have an interest in flying in the UK. I am therefore interested in opportunities to join the ADF as a Pilot.

Since I am aware I have to gain permanent residency before applying and the restrictions initially.

Can anyone advise me on the Pilot aptitude testing and officer selection process, or an associated link to an ADF official link?

Secondly, as I have a degree already would I go straight to Officer Training School? Would anyone kindly give me an insight to the content to this course, or an associated ADF link? Also an outline of the Pilot training would be helpful.

Many Thanks,

CobraP01
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Old 10th Sep 2012, 11:43
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1.1.reading different scales in cockpit or similar
1.2.controlling dot movement using stick/mouse
1.3 ...
all time limiting

2. contact DFR and they will tell you the correct way.
If you do not want to waste your time you can apply now while waiting for your citizenship but they will only process your application once they see the receipt from immigration dep.and other support docs.
Cheers,
TS
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Old 12th Sep 2012, 11:24
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Many Thanks for your help. On another subject I'm guessing flying grading fsp carries more weight than computer based aptitude, one would hope!

Secondly, could I potentially join and go to OTS?

Yours kindly, thanks for your input.
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Old 18th Sep 2012, 10:04
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the process tips

Hi everyone,

I would like to share the following helpful hints for those who are heading off to flight screening.
1. Listen to your instructor, and do your best to do exactly what they tell you to. Sounds simple, but commonly done quite poorly.
2. You do not know how to a fly an aircraft the way the ADF want you to, unless you have been taught to wings standard in ADF training aircraft - so don't think your civilian flying experience makes you more prepared than the next guy. It usually works the opposite, as most young guys who have hundreds of hours of flying tend to think they know better than the guy sitting next to them.
3. Don't answer the instructor back. Explanations at the time are called reasons, those in retrospect are called excuses. The instructors are not interested in your excuses - they know why you stuff things up
4. You are not being taught to fly the CT4 at flight screening, so having the manual and knowing it front to back before hand matters not. You are being screened - not taught. Understand this core concept and why things flow fast on FSP will make sense.
5. If you aren't successful at flight screening, you are being saved from a tough, thankless job that you would end up hating. It doesn't make you any less of a person, so while it might be hard, take the positives out of it - accepting this before you go there lessens anxiety.
6. If you aren't interested in flying fighters - as in you don't really want to fly hornets, then don't bother applying. You should be aiming as high as you can, not looking for a cushy job hauling trash and earning cash like some people. Go work for the mines driving a truck if you want that life style. The RAAF want an airlift/maritime force of pilots who worked as hard as they could on course, not guys who did 'just enough' because they are allergic to hard work - those guys kill people. You think flying night low level in a P3 is an easy job that requires a low tolerance for hard work? Be serious with yourself about the hard work required.
7. If you have a uni degree, you will need to work hard to learn how to learn airborne. If you have only high school, you will need to work hard to learn how to learn airborne. If you have a CPL with 2000 hours, you will have to work hard to learn how to learn airborne.....get the picture? The way the ADF train is not replicated many places - so be ready to feel like you have no idea, its the normal.
8. Enjoy the program for what it is, and ask questions of the instructors about what life in the ADF is like for them.

Good luck people!
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 06:18
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Lastvarker,

Excellent post, although I'm not sure if all those Army and Navy pilots that successfully complete screening and BFTS will necessarily agree with point 6
Sure you're not a 'staff' plant?
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Old 20th Sep 2012, 04:43
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Flight screening maths

Hey guys,
I am heading to tamworth mid October and have been preparing thoroughly, although I would like to know what type of mental maths is used on a daily basis, and in regards to OSB, what maths questions are/have been asked of candidates??

Cheers, Dan
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Old 20th Sep 2012, 09:45
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6. If you aren't interested in flying fighters - as in you don't really want to fly hornets, then don't bother applying. You should be aiming as high as you can, not looking for a cushy job hauling trash and earning cash like some people. Go work for the mines driving a truck if you want that life style.
Lastvarker, pretty insulting mate to Army, Navy and RAAF for that matter. I worked damn hard to get here and all I want to do is fly Army choppers, or is that aiming too low? Get a grip mate. I could really let loose on this but I wont.

"Chopper Pilots- cause jet pilots need heroes too"
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 08:35
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Anyone know when the next Army offers are coming out?
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 09:08
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If you aren't interested in flying fighters - as in you don't really want to fly hornets, then don't bother applying.
cj, got in just before me! For the RAAFies, unfortunately you can't fly helicopters any more, so you may have to settle for those loud pointy kero-to-noise converters.

I also think Julian Assange should get onto this so-called 'SATG' ...
SATG....if it exists which you just acknwledged,
, or perhaps get Mulder and Scully out of retirement to get to the bottom of this - the public have a right to know!
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 10:37
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Yup, if you can't hover you're.................oh hang on, can't say things like that any more
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 17:21
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Thumbs up

*crawls out of hole*
"I.... I made it"

Hi guys,

I just read through most of the pages of this Goliath thread, and I am very thankful of everybody's valuable input (apart from all the drama).

I've got my APT for ADFA Pilot next Thursday, which is probably a bad idea as all the HSC students will be applying around this time... but oh well.

Hoping for the best, thanks again forum dwellers of PPRuNe!
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Old 22nd Sep 2012, 01:17
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(Again RAAF'ies only) but if you're good enough to fly fighters that is where you will go. We need more Hornet drivers and from a company viewpoint the system of best on course picking where HE/SHE wanted to go was just not working. It would be a very difficult line to tread at 2FTS to see you're doing 'too well' to get 'your' C-17 slot and then to try to stuff stuff up just enough to get it....
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Old 22nd Sep 2012, 02:25
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So we send the top performers on course to fast jets even if they don't want to go there. Guess what happens next? Wasted time and (LOTS) of money when they fail.
If ACG want more pilots, they need to change the way they do business in terms of training and utilisation. Why do you think the numbers of trainee pilots wanting a FJ slot have dropped?
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Old 22nd Sep 2012, 04:04
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Captain Sand Dune and others... I agree with you, but this argument was played out earlier this year on this thread, and added very little value to the topic of Flight Screening... People got upset (mainly some old knucks...) and the topic strayed without helping those who are keen to get some good gouge on Flight Screening. Can I politely suggest we don't stoke this fire?
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Old 22nd Sep 2012, 23:01
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But it's so much fun!!!
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 14:01
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Ref my earlier post - (point 6) sorry i kind of assumed as neither army nor navy have jest this was obvious, but that point wasn't aimed at army or navy, hence No insult intended - talking to the RAAF focused audience only. If you want to fly choppers for army or mavy then power to you, I'm sure that would be a rewarding and enjoyable career.

Now I've got my grip back.....

To all those who are looking for a rotary career - please feel free to take what you want from the original post - but if you think I wrote that as some underhanded shot at rotary - I could have used far less words to better effect.

I have a lot of respect for the fine work done by the army and navy, as well as the RAAF - I'm not insecure about saying it :-)

And point 9. Gratification for your job should come from within: no one is going to be there after every flight to tell you how awesome you are because you fly tiger, or a C17, or a Seahawk etc. So if you are easily put off by not being made to feel special - you are perusing the wrong career.

Cj: Next time ask for clarification, I'm happy to give it.

Peace
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Old 1st Oct 2012, 06:10
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Pool and Offers

Hello Fellow PPRuNers,

Any Idea how many people are in the Pool???

Cheers
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Old 2nd Oct 2012, 04:55
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Hey Skyhigh,

Last I heard (a couple of weeks ago) there were about 50 in the pool with another 60 to go through flight screening between then and november. Just call PSA on the details you were given when you went on flight screening and ask for an update - they'll tell you your rough position, whether or not you are competative for a position in the next intake and the number in the pool.

Cheers,

Steve
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Old 2nd Oct 2012, 13:12
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Hey guys, I'm 15 years old and want to join the RAAF as it is my dream ever since I've been young. At the moment I'm focusing really hard in order to get this except one thing I can't figure out is how to get life experience. I've talked to a guy who went through FSP a few months ago and passed and he said community service sort of things. Does anyone else have anything like this (except for sports)?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 3rd Oct 2012, 06:33
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I'd suggest any volunteer work you could get into. For example, Rural fire service, surf life saving, SES etc. Keep in mind some of these do have age requirements before joining.

I'd also suggest getting a job and join cadets if you haven't already.

Also, does anyone have any idea how many people are in the waiting pool for those applying for ADFA entry?

Have a good one,
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