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Anyone know if the August FSP offers have been sent out?
If they have, I'll need to re-do the Assessment day for the fourth time... sigh.
Appreciate the info if anyone has it.
If they have, I'll need to re-do the Assessment day for the fourth time... sigh.
Appreciate the info if anyone has it.
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Hey Septerra,
Cant offer anything super concrete but I had an OSB mentoring evening a couple of weeks back and met a couple of people on #28,29,30 courses (which I believe would've been greater than 4 weeks notice for those). My file just got down there last week and I haven't heard anything yet so hopefully those 31-33 courses are still to be filled.
Cant offer anything super concrete but I had an OSB mentoring evening a couple of weeks back and met a couple of people on #28,29,30 courses (which I believe would've been greater than 4 weeks notice for those). My file just got down there last week and I haven't heard anything yet so hopefully those 31-33 courses are still to be filled.
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EDIT: Seems hand eye coordination has been removed recently based on anecdotes in this thread.
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You may have to wait in the pool for a while. I was in your position once and got a surprise call to fill a vacancy on a course. I ended up getting an offer and I'm now in the job I wanted.
Just be prepared to go through and complete another Assessment Day to improve your competitiveness after the year has gone through as the results only last a year.
Best,
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Hi all! Just received an invite for FSP for 20th August which I am over the moon about! (Medical approval 11 may). Anyone else have this date yet? Keen to have a chat before going down
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Hey guys just wanted to update you all, I completed my FSP just over a month ago and got recommended in top 25% of candidates. Just wondering how long those of you who received offers had to wait for your offer and what % of the pool you were placed.
Cheers
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Medical Appeal Query?
Hello All!
Like many of you I've ventured down the path of joining the ADF with aspirations of becoming a Pilot.
I've spent a considerable amount of time going through the wealth of information on this thread and am grateful to everyone who has contributed over the years.
I've recently completed my additional pilot testing having passed with eligibility for all the roles I had preferenced and had a Assessment session scheduled for a end of August. I've since had my session cancelled due to receiving a Med Class 4 after completing my Part B Medical Questionnaire.
I've been rendered ineligible due to a head injury I suffered while snowboarding in August 2016. I had a fall, suffered a concussion and had a tonic clonic seizure. I was medically cleared by my local hospital two days later after various scans (CT etc) and applicable checks and monitoring. I have no ongoing management for anything from the injury and this is the only seizure I have ever had in my life.
I note the ADF medical guidelines state you must be seizure free for at least 2 years. However, I was hoping for guidance for the following:
- Is it worth obtaining medical reports and attempting to appeal the decision?
- Is the decision likely to be overturned at all?
- Has anyone experienced anything similar and what was the outcome?
Thank you!
Like many of you I've ventured down the path of joining the ADF with aspirations of becoming a Pilot.
I've spent a considerable amount of time going through the wealth of information on this thread and am grateful to everyone who has contributed over the years.
I've recently completed my additional pilot testing having passed with eligibility for all the roles I had preferenced and had a Assessment session scheduled for a end of August. I've since had my session cancelled due to receiving a Med Class 4 after completing my Part B Medical Questionnaire.
I've been rendered ineligible due to a head injury I suffered while snowboarding in August 2016. I had a fall, suffered a concussion and had a tonic clonic seizure. I was medically cleared by my local hospital two days later after various scans (CT etc) and applicable checks and monitoring. I have no ongoing management for anything from the injury and this is the only seizure I have ever had in my life.
I note the ADF medical guidelines state you must be seizure free for at least 2 years. However, I was hoping for guidance for the following:
- Is it worth obtaining medical reports and attempting to appeal the decision?
- Is the decision likely to be overturned at all?
- Has anyone experienced anything similar and what was the outcome?
Thank you!
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Hi everyone.
My pilot dossier was sent off to Tamworth last week (DEO). How long have competitive candidates had to wait between the paperwork being received and an invitation for FSP being made?
Would it be safe to assume if I receive an invitation to attend FSP that it wouldn't be until next year or is there a chance I could scrape in for a DEO spot this year?
My pilot dossier was sent off to Tamworth last week (DEO). How long have competitive candidates had to wait between the paperwork being received and an invitation for FSP being made?
Would it be safe to assume if I receive an invitation to attend FSP that it wouldn't be until next year or is there a chance I could scrape in for a DEO spot this year?
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Logical,
The answer will remain as 'no' until you ask the question. It might cost a bit to appeal (getting the specialist reports ect) and it may take a long time. You should keep the following in mind. I'm not a doctor, but head injuries and seizures and aviation don't really mix well. It isn't just the ADF that has a tough stance - so to do civil aviation regulatory bodies and militaries world-wide. Have a look at the DAME Clinical Practice Guidelines for head injuries and seizures on the CASA website. The ADF may have it's own additional and/or different policies, but this is the sort of thing you will come up against.
The answer will remain as 'no' until you ask the question. It might cost a bit to appeal (getting the specialist reports ect) and it may take a long time. You should keep the following in mind. I'm not a doctor, but head injuries and seizures and aviation don't really mix well. It isn't just the ADF that has a tough stance - so to do civil aviation regulatory bodies and militaries world-wide. Have a look at the DAME Clinical Practice Guidelines for head injuries and seizures on the CASA website. The ADF may have it's own additional and/or different policies, but this is the sort of thing you will come up against.
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Logical,
The answer will remain as 'no' until you ask the question. It might cost a bit to appeal (getting the specialist reports ect) and it may take a long time. You should keep the following in mind. I'm not a doctor, but head injuries and seizures and aviation don't really mix well. It isn't just the ADF that has a tough stance - so to do civil aviation regulatory bodies and militaries world-wide. Have a look at the DAME Clinical Practice Guidelines for head injuries and seizures on the CASA website. The ADF may have it's own additional and/or different policies, but this is the sort of thing you will come up against.
The answer will remain as 'no' until you ask the question. It might cost a bit to appeal (getting the specialist reports ect) and it may take a long time. You should keep the following in mind. I'm not a doctor, but head injuries and seizures and aviation don't really mix well. It isn't just the ADF that has a tough stance - so to do civil aviation regulatory bodies and militaries world-wide. Have a look at the DAME Clinical Practice Guidelines for head injuries and seizures on the CASA website. The ADF may have it's own additional and/or different policies, but this is the sort of thing you will come up against.
Hello All!
Like many of you I've ventured down the path of joining the ADF with aspirations of becoming a Pilot.
I've spent a considerable amount of time going through the wealth of information on this thread and am grateful to everyone who has contributed over the years.
I've recently completed my additional pilot testing having passed with eligibility for all the roles I had preferenced and had a Assessment session scheduled for a end of August. I've since had my session cancelled due to receiving a Med Class 4 after completing my Part B Medical Questionnaire.
I've been rendered ineligible due to a head injury I suffered while snowboarding in August 2016. I had a fall, suffered a concussion and had a tonic clonic seizure. I was medically cleared by my local hospital two days later after various scans (CT etc) and applicable checks and monitoring. I have no ongoing management for anything from the injury and this is the only seizure I have ever had in my life.
I note the ADF medical guidelines state you must be seizure free for at least 2 years. However, I was hoping for guidance for the following:
- Is it worth obtaining medical reports and attempting to appeal the decision?
- Is the decision likely to be overturned at all?
- Has anyone experienced anything similar and what was the outcome?
Thank you!
Like many of you I've ventured down the path of joining the ADF with aspirations of becoming a Pilot.
I've spent a considerable amount of time going through the wealth of information on this thread and am grateful to everyone who has contributed over the years.
I've recently completed my additional pilot testing having passed with eligibility for all the roles I had preferenced and had a Assessment session scheduled for a end of August. I've since had my session cancelled due to receiving a Med Class 4 after completing my Part B Medical Questionnaire.
I've been rendered ineligible due to a head injury I suffered while snowboarding in August 2016. I had a fall, suffered a concussion and had a tonic clonic seizure. I was medically cleared by my local hospital two days later after various scans (CT etc) and applicable checks and monitoring. I have no ongoing management for anything from the injury and this is the only seizure I have ever had in my life.
I note the ADF medical guidelines state you must be seizure free for at least 2 years. However, I was hoping for guidance for the following:
- Is it worth obtaining medical reports and attempting to appeal the decision?
- Is the decision likely to be overturned at all?
- Has anyone experienced anything similar and what was the outcome?
Thank you!
Look at the possible outcomes.
You get in, they find out, and they kick you out.
Or you tell the truth and you don't get in...
Either way you end up at the same place.
When I joined asthma was a big no no, yet there was more than once I heard a mysterious puffer like sound when "camping" during OTS. They all went on to pass and become FJ pilots.
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Hi everyone,
Great thread this! Been reading it all and absorbing as much info as I can from it all.
I passed assessment day last Wednesday, and have been recommended for all three (Ugrad Army AeroEng, RAAF Pilot, RAAF ACO).
I must admit though I am somewhat trepidatious about what the ADF may think of my age and my suitability to be a pilot (turning 37 next month).
The ACO who did my interviews seemed to think that as long as I passed all the testing they threw at me, then it wouldn't be an issue. However, if I did get in, I'd be coming out of flight school around 40....surely this would preclude me automatically from some jobs (i.e. fast jets), correct?
Has anybody here had any experience or knowledge of "old" blokes like myself making it through FSP (and then flight school), and if so, where they tended to end up? While I'd love to fly with the RAAF, if its going to be pushing sh*t uphill due to policies frowning upon an older candidate, then I'd be more than happy to fly helos with Navy or Army (if those pathways automatically prove more fortuitous given my age). I'd be thrilled flying in the military period, no matter what airframe it happened to be.
Thanks for any help you guys may have for me.
David
Great thread this! Been reading it all and absorbing as much info as I can from it all.
I passed assessment day last Wednesday, and have been recommended for all three (Ugrad Army AeroEng, RAAF Pilot, RAAF ACO).
I must admit though I am somewhat trepidatious about what the ADF may think of my age and my suitability to be a pilot (turning 37 next month).
The ACO who did my interviews seemed to think that as long as I passed all the testing they threw at me, then it wouldn't be an issue. However, if I did get in, I'd be coming out of flight school around 40....surely this would preclude me automatically from some jobs (i.e. fast jets), correct?
Has anybody here had any experience or knowledge of "old" blokes like myself making it through FSP (and then flight school), and if so, where they tended to end up? While I'd love to fly with the RAAF, if its going to be pushing sh*t uphill due to policies frowning upon an older candidate, then I'd be more than happy to fly helos with Navy or Army (if those pathways automatically prove more fortuitous given my age). I'd be thrilled flying in the military period, no matter what airframe it happened to be.
Thanks for any help you guys may have for me.
David
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That's correct. I was told by DFR that Army are full for pilots, whereas RAAF are the opposite, and are in overdrive recruiting for pilots at present. Perhaps it's all those new airframes coming in, plus skilled F18 pilots now doing JSF conversion training (and Orion jockeys moving across to the P8). Leaves me wondering who'll be left flying the Super Hornets and Growlers during the transition period whilst one would imagine a large % of pilots are training on and transitioning to the JSF.
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The Army is not full of pilots. Due to a number of reasons, the Army has a major backlog of people waiting for an operational conversion. Since the training system can't produce pilots any faster and is already running at capacity in terms of output, its only option is to slow its intake of fresh trainees to allow the backlog to clear. This will take a long (!) time. Even if it magically trained everyone waiting overnight though, the regiments would still be undermanned.
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Hi all,
Was just assigned my FSP & OSB course, DEO Course 201736, commencing Sunday 10 September – Saturday 23 September 2017. Just seeing if anyone else on here is attending at the same time.
My file was sent down to PSA on the 28th of May 2017, to give an idea on potential waiting time for those applying.
Cheers,
Richard
Was just assigned my FSP & OSB course, DEO Course 201736, commencing Sunday 10 September – Saturday 23 September 2017. Just seeing if anyone else on here is attending at the same time.
My file was sent down to PSA on the 28th of May 2017, to give an idea on potential waiting time for those applying.
Cheers,
Richard
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Hey there everyone.
I just got an invite to FSP for 10-23 September
Is anyone else going to that one? Would be good to have a chat beforehand.
Best of luck to everyone going through the process currently.
(didn't mean for those smilies to look like such self-congratulatory clapping, by the way, but there doesn't seem to be a better "happy" option)
I just got an invite to FSP for 10-23 September
Is anyone else going to that one? Would be good to have a chat beforehand.Best of luck to everyone going through the process currently.
(didn't mean for those smilies to look like such self-congratulatory clapping, by the way, but there doesn't seem to be a better "happy" option)
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