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Thanks for the reply FlyingDr95. Hoping that is what it means. I received a call from PSA about a 2 weeks ago and a call from DFR followed by a letter via email today.
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I would certainly clarify the terms of your Letter of Appointment before accepting it, particularly in relation to the meaning of "provisional". Current Army policy states that an Aviation Cadetship is an avenue for entry into the Army whereby the applicant has successfully completed the testing required and is pre-selected to Army Aviation. There is no mention of a Cadetship being provisional, however the Defence Personnel Regulations and subsequent Defence policy does permit applicants to be provisionally appointed.
The terms contained within your letter appear to not preselect you to Army Aviation. A provisional Cadetship therefore essentially means nothing - you will be competing for Aviation in the same way every other graduate competes for their desired Corps. Even upon successful completion of RMC, if there are not sufficient positions within the Corps you will be assigned elsewhere based off Service needs. Your only avenue back into Aviation would be to commence a Corps transfer. Lord knows when, and if, you would be succesful. This is a substantial risk that you would accept and something you must carefully consider. It is also unlikely that you will become aware of posting positions until quite late in your RMC training, making resigning impossible until you have served out your ROSO for the RMC component.
This risk cannot be underestimated. I have personally seen it occur and it is devastating to the individuals concerned. The most likely scenario for your situation is that several of your possible classmates are on a normal Cadetship. You have been offered a provisional Cadetship and will be selected to Aviation in the event that one of them fails, is back classed, resigns, is injured etc. If none of the above occurs you may not have a position to be posted to.
If Army Aviation is your thing, I highly recommend the GSO stream. Everyone will give you their two cents worth but the simple fact is that you have substantially more career choices later on. And yes, staying in a flying position is indeed one of these. I would however, strongly advise you to clarify why your Cadetship is provisional and what you would have to do to be offered an unconditional Cadetship. Get absolutely everything in writing and then keep copies of it all in the most safe place possible.
Finally, out of curiosity, what is the ROSO/IMPS stated in the letter?
The terms contained within your letter appear to not preselect you to Army Aviation. A provisional Cadetship therefore essentially means nothing - you will be competing for Aviation in the same way every other graduate competes for their desired Corps. Even upon successful completion of RMC, if there are not sufficient positions within the Corps you will be assigned elsewhere based off Service needs. Your only avenue back into Aviation would be to commence a Corps transfer. Lord knows when, and if, you would be succesful. This is a substantial risk that you would accept and something you must carefully consider. It is also unlikely that you will become aware of posting positions until quite late in your RMC training, making resigning impossible until you have served out your ROSO for the RMC component.
This risk cannot be underestimated. I have personally seen it occur and it is devastating to the individuals concerned. The most likely scenario for your situation is that several of your possible classmates are on a normal Cadetship. You have been offered a provisional Cadetship and will be selected to Aviation in the event that one of them fails, is back classed, resigns, is injured etc. If none of the above occurs you may not have a position to be posted to.
If Army Aviation is your thing, I highly recommend the GSO stream. Everyone will give you their two cents worth but the simple fact is that you have substantially more career choices later on. And yes, staying in a flying position is indeed one of these. I would however, strongly advise you to clarify why your Cadetship is provisional and what you would have to do to be offered an unconditional Cadetship. Get absolutely everything in writing and then keep copies of it all in the most safe place possible.
Finally, out of curiosity, what is the ROSO/IMPS stated in the letter?
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I've contacted Flight Screening, apparently Army and Navy offers have gone out already, but RAAF offers are still to come. Should know by the end of next week for sure if you are going to get an offer.
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I called them on Wednesday afternoon and that's that's what they said. Did he get the offer after Wednesday? Or maybe they don't call everyone at once. Just thought I would relay the same information that I received from them to everyone else that is anxious for an offer
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I'm not too sure but I'll ask her. She said apparently each offer takes half a day to prepare, so they may still be more to come.
I also contacted DFR and she also said Army and Navy had started coming out but RAAF hadn't come out yet, so maybe the East Coast ones have started coming out but the WA ones haven't, who knows.
For everyone else reading this waiting for an offer - there still may be hope!
I also contacted DFR and she also said Army and Navy had started coming out but RAAF hadn't come out yet, so maybe the East Coast ones have started coming out but the WA ones haven't, who knows.
For everyone else reading this waiting for an offer - there still may be hope!
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If you call PSA they will tell you if they have sent your file to Canberra for selection. Its not always the case that they give you an update call.
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For the ADFA guys, it looks like the people selected for Army have been getting phone calls from PSA saying they're going to get an offer (assuming they achieve the school results). I'm assuming that Navy will be next and then Air Force.
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Ok thanks Lightningstriker. I was only wondering as I have been in contact with the Perth DFR and was told RAAF offers weren't out yet, so I was thinking that possibly there were some differences between states.
I gave PSA a call and my file has been sent to Canberra for RAAF selection, apparently it was distributed back in August and PSA hasn't heard anything since. Do you think that's a good or bad sign?
I gave PSA a call and my file has been sent to Canberra for RAAF selection, apparently it was distributed back in August and PSA hasn't heard anything since. Do you think that's a good or bad sign?
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The people in Canberra are the ones who approve and select you from the pool. I would view it as you've been successful enough to be in the running for an offer but you've just fallen short on the rounds that have come out. You might get one in the next rounds!
